A question regarding swastikas

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Mouzafphaerre are you Georgian?

Nope, Turkish with no extra ethnic attributes AFAIK, except one of my great-grandmothers being probably Circassian, but with roots in modern day Armenia and Azerbaijan (Karabağ, Erivan, Sofyan) 9 generations back.

A nation whose people have faced a genocide such as Israel does not recognize the Armenian genocide, practices a similar one with the Palestinians, and lobbies in Washington DC for her ally Turkey to not get the Armenian genoicde passed in congress. but at the same time it is illigal to debate ANY aspect of the Holocaust. Its intresting on how some people go to jail for their thoughts, and some people get away with murder.

Dirty politics all around the world. The Holocaust has been used as propaganda material to firmly establish the Jewish state in ME. (Just in case, I'm not a Holocaust denier, and thank God I'm devoid and sick of all kinds of nationalism and counter-nationalism.) Armenian genocide, OTOH, is often used against Turkey as political blackmailing material but never fully recognized just to keep it hot when need be, and easily play with the pseudo-fascist Turkish state.

THE FISH STINKS FROM THE HEAD

It exists in exact translation ("Balık baştan kokar.") and meaning in Turkish.
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[artavazd]

WOW first time I have talked with a Turk as two decent human beings should. I agree with you on all the points you made. My fathers side is from Karin ( Erzerum) and my mothers side is from Van. Take care friend

[Kurulham]

Personally, I'm glad they weren't included, and if they were and a patch were provided to remove them I'd make use of it. This isn't because I'm unaware of the ancient and noble heritage of the swastika but because of the fact that, despite all the study in the world, my knee-jerk, split-second reaction when I see the symbol, right-handed or left-handed, is "ZOMG NAZIS". It would be very distracting.

Makes it rather interesting being over here in Japan as the right-handed swastika, termed manji, is the universal sign on maps for "Buddhist site of interest", much as the torii gate for a Shinto site or a cross for a church in the West. You go looking for the Kamakura Daibutsu and suddenly your brain goes ZOMG NAZIS at you. Odd.

[Mouzafphaerre]

WOW first time I have talked with a Turk as two decent human beings should. I agree with you on all the points you made. My fathers side is from Karin ( Erzerum) and my mothers side is from Van. Take care friend

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