Bulgarian Empire should be added.

**Sandouras** · 10-12-2007, 14:02

Since the Bulgars where under the Byzantines they didnt have an empire. To have an empire, you need to rule over your own and other nations. They didnt rule either. And when they were free from Byzantine occupation, they had to conquer and rule a multinational state to be considered an empire.

**alien_t** · 10-30-2007, 11:21

Originally Posted by Sandouras

Since the Bulgars where under the Byzantines they didnt have an empire. To have an empire, you need to rule over your own and other nations. They didnt rule either. And when they were free from Byzantine occupation, they had to conquer and rule a multinational state to be considered an empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bulgarian_Empire

Just see this

**AnthoniusII** · 11-01-2007, 15:49

[QUOTE=Sandouras]Since the Bulgars where under the Byzantines they didnt have an empire. To have an empire, you need to rule over your own and other nations. They didnt rule either. And when they were free from Byzantine occupation, they had to conquer and rule a multinational state to be considered an empire.[/QUOTE
As I wrote many times months ago there was no bulgaria in 1071...after the apsolut win of Basilleios II Boulgarictonos...Bulgars revolt again in 1185...So they must exist as an emerging faction in that time or as an event rebelion!!!

**alien_t** · 11-01-2007, 16:39

Never mind. This mod is death anyway.

We made our mod already.

**AnthoniusII** · 11-02-2007, 14:13

Originally Posted by alien_t

Never mind. This mod is death anyway.

We made our mod already.

Playing is a matter,having historical accurasy is an other...
If you want a mod for "ethnic" proud then make one of your own...If you want a realistic one then we ALL must follow the generic path of history we like it or not...I can not participate in a mod with no ottoman empire if it starts after 1453 just becouse I am greek!!!!

**eroslav** · 11-18-2007, 01:58

I think that The Bulgarian Empire should be an emerging faction,since it was free from the byzantine empire later in the game.

**Sandouras** · 11-19-2007, 23:38

yeah, well that's just... like... your opinion man...

**D. Afonso Henriques** · 11-23-2007, 21:24

Really liked your post Sandouras, really funy, I mean it!
Anyways, as long as there is room for another faction I don't see any problem with adding the Bulgarians as a faction. Even though they weren't around that mutch time, no offence man. But the problem is that the faction are already decided and there is no more room for any new, sorry but that's the ugly thruth.
Nice idea though, it whould actually be interesting having such a challenge (for a change).