New Romanii Unit Question :

[brymht]

Hey, I understand there is little historical basis for Arcani, but in the Imperial period, the Romans did have a Scout Corps, I believe which worked in tandem with locals to keep an eye on tribal disturbances in the forests of Germania and the deserts of Arabia and North Africa. As a unit, they would seem to be fairly useful from a Romani point of view, as Imperial 'Border Watchers'. They would have been soso fighters, and not terribly great at much besides hiding, and few in number; but not expenssive. Just a thought, as the Romani really don't get a lot of unit choiuces. I think they would be useful and a historically accurate choice to add.

But were they added in the early Imperial period or the late? If Roman had expanded early enough, would they have been added sooner?

Launch your ciritcisms now.........

[Spendios]

The road to flaming pigs is paved with scout corps.

[alatar]

Romans have the biggest unit roster I think? I mean 4 sets of units...

[brymht]

Please no Lorica Segmentata remarks, I really think there's a better historical argument for Scoutish units than war dogs, flaming pigs, or Arcani....

[cmacq]

Oui magnifique, but EB and the romans may have liked to call them espion en français?

[Tellos Athenaios]

And that's a very valid point too...

[brymht]

Reasonable. The Romani do have a lot of units, they just don't have a lot at any one time!

[Spendios]

Reasonable. The Romani do have a lot of units, they just don't have a lot at any one time!

Spoiled child syndrome

[konny]

Reasonable. The Romani do have a lot of units, they just don't have a lot at any one time!

In this case, build a time machine and complain to the Romans themselves because in EB they get everything they had in the timeframe.

[Emperor Burakuku]

I think that the scouts' problem is kinda relative. I mean as far as I know they we're selected from the actual legionnaires (during Claudius timeframe) at least 'till Marcus Aurelius and the Marcomanic Wars. I say that for this timeframe, the Romans have more then enough units. And on the other hand, a scout unit wouldn't be that helpful if you ask me, plus that you can alway roleplay and you can use a different unit for this exact purpose.

[Spendios]

Oui magnifique, but EB and the romans may have liked to call them espion en français?

Dans le cas présent, il ne s'agit pas d'espions mais plutôt d'éclaireurs.

[Fenrhyl]

Dans le cas présent, il ne s'agit pas d'espions mais plutôt d'éclaireurs.

Enfonçons le clou.

Le mot employé en vieux français pour désigner un éclaireur est "escoute". L'anglais a conservé le mot (scout) mais lui a retiré son "e-".

Le terme dérive de l'action d'"écouter".

"Espion" est un mot qui se disait autrefois "espie", et a donné "spy" en anglais, là aussi en supprimant le "e-" ; le terme dériver de l'action d'"épier".

Moralité ? "escoute" et "espie" sont interchangeables, le deux font en gros la même chose : ils récoltent des informations. Et ça nous donne que "scout" et "spy" sont synonymes.

Seconde moralité : j'avais la flemme de taper ça en anglais.

Troisième moralité : vous dormez pronfondèment.

[konny]

Können wir das eventuell in einer Sprache fortsetzen, die ich auch verstehe? Danke!

;-)

[Maeran]

Yes, the sicarius and speculator units are in the game, and in suitable unit sizes compared to the main units too. They just haven't been given EB names.

More along the lines of what you're thinking of, brymht, wouldn't the most likely scenario be native guides with a Roman 'co-ordinator?' In which case any unit of light troops with a captain would fit the bill fairly well.

[L.C.Cinna]

I guess you mean the "exploratores" which were stationed along the limes but they are out of EB's timeframe.

[brymht]

Thats kinda what I was thinking. The exploratores were what, ad 150 or so?

[Tellos Athenaios]

as the Romani really don't get a lot of unit choiuces.

If the Romani, who get by far the most of all of everything, don't get a lot; who does?

That is the problem with adding a rarity unit for the Romani: even if it is historically accurate other factions are more important to flesh out; precisely because the Romani already get so much.