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    I forgot to mention GMT. I assumed that most people knew. I apologize.

    I will now post our constitution as I have finished it, and I ask that Glenn and Boru review and post any queries or concerns they may have, as there ideas were instrumental in allowing me to create this. I took ideas from both, as both had some fairly different thoughts on play (one prefers faster play, while the other prefers slower play....I am somewhat 'in the middle' as it were).

    I think I've found a good middle ground between both extremes.

    These rules will be found in the OP of our council thread....

    Official SSbQ Succession Game Constitution

    On the Powers of Shophet

    1) Any council member can run for the office of Shophet (senators and governors).

    2) To run for Shophet, all nominees must express their wish to run before 11:59 P.M. EST (7:59 P.M. GMT) on the Wednesday preceding the election.

    3) The Shophet will be elected by a council of his peers on the Friday of every week. Voting will take place over a period of 24 hours in the Council Thread. We will not use live chats for voting.

    4) The Shophet will begin his term at any time following the live council meeting held on every Saturday (time pending), but must complete his term by the following Thursday.

    After the Shophet posts his savegame, the next group of candidates for Shophet will be announced, and the process of voting will begin again.

    5) The Shophet does not vote on matters in the council. He acts as judge of the proceedings, breaking tie-votes and guiding the general direction of the proposals based on strategic decisions.

    On the powers of Council Members (Governors and Senators)

    1) Senators recieve one vote per proposal in council, while Governors recieve two.

    2) Governors have 24 hours to complete battles in the field and return the save game, or the Shophet will confiscate the battle.

    3) Battles fought by Governors are fought out by their respective members, barring extenuating circumstances to be decided by the Gamemaster.

    4) Senators will move up in rank based on many things, but not limited to; activity, maturity, and general service given to the empire.

    5) Council Members can amend these Constitutional Rules, or add addendums, during council by a formal proposal at any time during the course of the week. These will be voted on at the live debate (although a mechanism will be made available for those who cannot attend). The following format will be used for Constitutional Proposals in the council.

    Constitutional Proposal 1.1 where 1 is the term of the Shophet, and .1 is the number of the proposal. So Constitutional Proposal 14.6 would be the sixth offical Constitutional Proposal made during the fourteenth term of our game. These issues will be voted on before the next Shophet begins his term.

    6) Other proposals, known as Strategic Proposals, which include such things as building construction and troop recruitment/allocation, can be made at any time during the course of the week. These will be voted on at the live debate (although a mechanism will be made available for those who cannot attend). The following format will be used for Strategic Proposals in the council.

    Strategic Proposal 1.1 where 1 is the term of the Shophet, and .1 is the proposal number. So proposal 14.6 would be the sixth official proposal made during the fourteenth term of our game. These issues will be voted on before the next Shophet begins his term i.e. the 15th term of our game.

    /End Constitution

    Once again, a big thanks to Glenn and Boru in their help and insight with these initial rules. I did have to find a nice balance between what each desired, but I feel the final product is far superior to anything I would have came up with myself.

    Bootsiuv

    PS If anyone else has any concerns, please let me know.

    That being said, it will take a logical argument for me to make any drastic changes.
    Last edited by Bootsiuv; 10-21-2007 at 18:24.
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    Finally. Let our world conquest commence !

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    Looking good and organized and impressive

    looking forward to start


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    Sassem,when you have some free time,please make me a sig.

    Bootsiuv,this constitution is exelent.Ill be happy to start with such rules.

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    It should be something like this
    but i'm not be able to load up more than 80 pictures in one single post because of the forum rules


    I found that out the hard so the little secret projects are canceld for now

    accept for the signatures






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    Default Re: 1.0 Succession Game Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Malik of Sindh
    Sassem,when you have some free time,please make me a sig.

    Bootsiuv,this constitution is exelent.Ill be happy to start with such rules.
    I can't give you one right now because if have no list of names yet

    sorry you just have to wait

    ps Bootsiuv i will be away for a hour from now

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    Here it is 16:50 (GMT -3) free almost all nights from 08:00 to 12:00 (local time) tough I can be on line a lot more of time
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    AtB slave trader Member Malik of Sindh's Avatar
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    Ok Sassem,ill wait.BTW which city im senator of?Atiqa?Kart-Hadast?

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    @Malik of Sindh

    I have to update my player list, so I'm not 100% certain where you are.

    @Sassem

    Was he one of the ones we assigned the other day via X-Fire....I can't recall.

    On another note, Poulp' is experiencing technical problems and has reluctantly withdrawn, so we'll have to reassign Bomikar.

    I have to install X-Fire on my desktop, as I've prepared that for online, so I can look over save files while we're in discussions. So just PM me here for now, and we'll finalize the avatars.

    BTW, perhaps a more simplified form of your diagram might be helpful? It's your call, but it's a shame to let all of your hard work go to waste.


    @everyone else

    I have recieved 8 PMs. I assume Glenn and Boru are playing, although Sassem will still need the time available on Saturdays.

    This is something like 12 inactives if we were to start right now, and 8 players is borderline for a senate type game. I hope the majority of the others still plan on joining.

    Bootsiuv
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    Does any know how i can simplifield this

    there a lot of no shows

    i will look up to all the different post and if possible if something not clear to me i will x-fire them show i can fill in the OTO realtime

    i still want to have the post right behind you

    as for the buildings i will figure out something but it is paused for now

    about the avatars i won't sign up any body anymore till the game starts there are to many people asking for one and then don't show up for a long time and i don't want to spend time in something that will not pay off

    i think the best way is to start the game when you are ready and experience the whole thing im will be online for 1.5 hours then i go to bed it's 2300hrs here
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    Well....some players have posted quite regularly....we'll give them a little more time (1 day or so). Then we'll likely begin, as I know many are impatient to begin. I just want to make sure everything goes smoothly. I still have my doubts as to the live council meetings, but we'll give it a go. If it becomes too complicated, convoluted, or simply not enough getting done, we'll likely keep the meeting as a sort of 'informal discussion', but may revert to what seems to have worked best in King of the Romans, which is simply a council thread with something like 48 hrs of debate time. This will slow down the game, but may be required if only 4-5 are available at the same time for live councils.

    This is why we need everyone's time online.

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    Whenever it is possible, please inform the x-fire relation for us to create the new contacts
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    For times online, i am online almost all the time checking xfire or the forums. If for any reason i will be gone or can not make a meeting i will let you guys know of it, otherwise count on me being there. Can't wait until start.

    @bootsiuv

    if you can jump on xfire for a bit anytime today that would be great! Would like to have a quick chat

    Thanks!
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    for the senators sig's
    that i have to make


    Lepki ---> Malik of Sindh

    Karalis---->Leao Magno

    Sorry Malik but you have to stay there for this moment
    Last edited by Sassem; 10-21-2007 at 23:14.

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    I have not posted in some time, this is because of the great activity that has been playing through my household.
    I may be moving addresses very soon, and as such, with the amount of horses and baggage my family has, it is a large task.
    The action itself will not be for some weeks yet however.

    On reading the constitution, I find that the only reasons I have to argue with them are for my own personal interests, and therefore are those arguments invalid.
    So I am ready to begin, immediately after I receive some technical adive on the following subject;
    I have downloaded 1.0, and I installed Ferromancer's BI.exe mod, for the reason that I prefer only this mod in addition to EB itself.
    The problem being, that I have not got a backup.
    I did this because the mod has an uninstaller, so will it still be stable if I uninstall the mod, delete this map.rwm and install the S.S.BBQ mod?

    My standard time in relation to Greenwich is GMT +10.
    I am most usually on between 6:00pm and 9:00 pm on all days.
    This is a very tight fit, but if I know a time for meetings and other things, I can attempt those hours.

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    ignore
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    err, I'm not sure how to say this but im usually free from 5:30 PM till 9:30 PM Central time (I think thats -6 GMT?) everyday on the weekdays, All day on the weekends
    Spoofa sorry but this is unclear to me

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    wow this is gonna be GOOOOOD


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    I dont know how to do greenwich time. Im american.

    We dont play by your rules.

    So if anyone can translate what I said for him that would be great.
    Last edited by Spoofa; 10-22-2007 at 03:16.

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    yay i cant wait for this to start!

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    Can't wait for it to start, too. I. Need. More. Free. Time. Argh.

    Bootsiuv, in simple terms, what's x-fire and is it absolutely crucial that I use it? Because my computer is tottering as it is, and I don't want to install anything else on it... it may go wonky.


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    Xfire's a messenging system made for gamers.


    If you want to participate in the live senate debates you need it yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoofa
    I dont know how to do greenwich time. Im american.

    We dont play by your rules.

    So if anyone can translate what I said for him that would be great.
    yea I hear ya...

    USA central is GMT -5

    so if Spoofa's free from 5:30 PM till 9:30 PM
    that means it is from 2230 PM to 230 AM in GMTime
    right? unless I'm math tarded which I probably am, seeing as how it is 12:50 AM right now where I am...


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    When Sassem is online tomorrow, I will likely put up the council thread. We can begin debates as to where to go, although I may wait for elections and the first term for our usual Thursday-Friday setup.

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    Karalis! Great! A rich province fulled with perspective for evolution!!!!
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    Online and Playing times: I'm in EST, which is GMT -4 (currently, although
    we'll be going off daylight savings soon...gah)

    Weekdays EST: 22:00 - 1:00 (GMT: 02:00 - 05:00)

    Weekends EST 10:00 - 1:00 (GMT: 14:00-05:00)

    edit: Although i posted it earlier, for posterity: Xfire id=theorykid
    Last edited by theorykid; 10-22-2007 at 13:28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theorykid
    Online and Playing times: I'm in EST, which is GMT -4 (currently, although
    we'll be going off daylight savings soon...gah)

    Weekdays EST: 22:00 - 1:00 (GMT: 02:00 - 05:00)

    Weekends EST 10:00 - 1:00 (GMT: 14:00-05:00)

    edit: Although i posted it earlier, for posterity: Xfire id=theorykid
    Thank you that's perfect and clear

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    If there is still confusion about GMT in relation to yourself, this page may be useful.

    http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

    Even if you have cookies off, you can probably do the calculation relating what time it is locally to GMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theorykid
    If there is still confusion about GMT in relation to yourself, this page may be useful.

    http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

    Even if you have cookies off, you can probably do the calculation relating what time it is locally to GMT.

    OMG

    If i new that link only 2 weeks earlier

    For now i'm finished with the am/pm and gmt

    I hate am/pm there are 24 hrs in a day not 2x12hrs

    anyway here is the OTO i'm 100% sure that i made some mistakes (how can i know when people wake up and go to bed???????????)


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    I have already PM'ed Bootsuiv about this yesterday,

    I will not be able to join the SSbQ anytime soon; EB 1.0 does not work (I can't understand why, 0.81 used to work just fine) and to make things worse my mouse's left click is broken. For now, I switched the left and right click, but ordering an army around is impossible.

    As a consequence, I resigned from my post of govenor
    That means a governor seat is open.
    I changed my signature accordingly so that two people don't share one seat.
    I'd like to be part of the senators for the time being.

    Sorry to give you work Sassem
    Cheers to the new governor of Adrumento

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