1.0 Succession Game Discussion Thread

**Sassem** · 10-26-2007, 23:30

First live meeting announcement!!!!!!!!!

Ok pay attention please and we all will learn and experience from this

i talked to bootsiuv and we came to he conclusion that the best time for the most of us it will be held at

2200 GMT SATURDAY EVENING

so the local times would be

NAME AND GMT TIMES / LOCAL TIMES for the meeting

sassem gmt+2 / 0000hrs from saturday to sunday

glenn gmt+10 / 0800 hrs sunday morning

bootsiuv gmt -4 / 1800hrs saturday evening

madmatg gmt -6 / 1600hrs saturday evening

these are just a few examples i hope so much that this is clear for everyone i know as that in this period of year the summer times will change to winter times be aware of that (in the Netherlands where i live it will change this weekend from summer +2 to winter+1 times)

it will be difficult for every one as it is for me but we have to give it a try and we will find out what will be the best time for everyone

if it is totally unclear to you all this just try to x-fire me

your current gmt time can be found at he bottom of this page

And this page is maybe helpful to you http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

**PershsNhpios** · 10-27-2007, 01:47

Eight tomorrow morning.. hmm, my mornings are usually very productive as are my days, so night time is the easiest for me.
However I do not ask to change this, and in fact tomorrow morning is rather different from all, so I should be capable of attending.
It is 10.40 AM on the Saturday here.

As for what has been written in the Council thread, I don't disapprove of it because it offensive to Hanno, but because it isn't very appropriate for our era of roleplay.
Nor are the excess of smilies and bracketed actions, these make the posts look very messy and compared to the list of enobled speeches and charactery well thought of above - it makes for a very unsightly intermission...

Not to mention I don't know where you found a sheep's bladder in North Africa.

I hesitated to write this in case it would appear I was shamelessly defending Hanno out-of-character, but I simply found that to be very degrading to all previous posts in the thread, which our players put much effort into.

I also would like to know if my side-story on how Hanno spurred the Lepki populace was out of place in the story thread, as I added something similar to the beginning of the council thread.
I saw the rule that we may enhance our character there, and thought I might do so by showing what Hanno is doing in his province.
This by no means should be used as an argument against him when we return to the Senate, as no others would know of it.
It is written for the audience.

Finally, I would like to know both how we are going to handle adopted family members when they are offered in-game, and if the Senators and Governors can still converse casually in the council thread after the hearing is finished.

I think the latter very productive, and it would allow for non-official discussion of strategies, further player development and more vicious back-stabbing!

**Bootsiuv** · 10-27-2007, 02:22

Yes, Glenn, as soon as the proposals are voted on, the council thread will be reopened, and we'll have time for free deliberation, before the next 48 hr period where our council-members shall once again be allowed to put forth formal proposals.

And you were right on in the story thread....I plan on doing one on Mago soon, nothing much....I just like to write....but please continue, as it's what it it there for.

And I will not make deals with provinces for bribed votes my friend. If Boru is most deserving of your vote based on his merits, very good then.

Bootsiuv

As it stands now....

Bootsiuv - 1
Boru - 1
Spoofa - 0

**pezhetairoi** · 10-27-2007, 02:35

I'll vote Bootsiuv. I think it only fitting the first term should go to the founder. Of course, like the consular elections, past consuls may not run again for a period of x terms, and I think that's a good rule. What is the live meeting being held on>? I have no x-fire. And it would correspond to 6am sunday morning for me, so I'll have to set my alarm clock.

I wonder about the whole midnight thing as well that Glenn has raised. It is a nice idea, and as I see it, it shouldn't be a problem as long as the whole thing is in character, yes?

And about the sheep's bladder, we're Kart-Hadast, my goodness. Import-export is our business. Hardly a problem, we're the closest the ancient world had to Amazon.com.

And Congratulations Bootsiuv! The tavern barkeeper has a kid! Boy, or girl?

**Bootsiuv** · 10-27-2007, 03:02

Boy.

Unfortunately friend, as of right now it looks like we're shooting for X-Fire....with MSN as a back-up. I have not required people give any other platform names because I've asked enough up to this point.

That being said....if we do experience troubles with X-Fire this week, we'll simply have to do standard council thread votes, and hold off on the live votes until a more stable platform can be found. Quite frankly, I've never heard of such things even being attempted, so I'm still not even certain we can pull it off.

I have been perusing the propositions for redundancy, and will provide an ammended list within a few hours time. All players unable to attend the live meeting will be given a period of 24 hours to vote on proposals in that thread. I prefer it to remain in character, but see nothing wrong in some playful badgering, assuming that remains in character as well.

It won't matter much, as I'll clearly mark the beginning of the next session with large, bold type, and I'll make the list of proposals available in post 2 and the first post of that session, for easy reference.

Well, that's about all for now.

Bootsiuv

**Bootsiuv** · 10-27-2007, 05:54

A list of the finalized props can be downloaded HERE.

Proposals for the 1st term of Shophet Abib 272 - Abib 270

Constitutional Proposal 1.1 - [I, Gisgo, Governor of Ippone, do hereby propose] an amendment be added to the constitution requiring a second for any nominee for Shophet before he can be added to the list of those seeking the position.

Constitutional Proposal 1.2 [originally Strategic Proposal 1.11] – Elect a general (hence known as the Magistrate) who shares the Shophet's term.

Constitutional Proposal 1.3 [originally Strategic Proposal 1.11] - Allow the Shophet to nominate a Magistrate in times of urgent need.

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Strategic Proposal 1.2 - I [Hanno, Governor of Lepki] would advise to see two levies made in each city of Iberia, in Corsica, in Sardinia, and in Lilybaeum.

Strategic Proposal 1.3 - The city of Lepki will be given the highest priority for construction of choice in the year 272 B.C.E.

Strategic proposal 1.4 – Peace with Epirus provided a payment for troubles caused [restitution] of at least 5.000 (10.000 is better) and Cartogaphy information.

Strategic Proposal 1.6 – building ports followed by the Construction priority to the economical growth of Karalis, Alalia and Lilibeo, by building trade centers, farms, and esecially mines in Karalis as soon as possible.

Strategic Proposal 1.7 – build a better port at Lilibeo to increase our trade value.

Strategic Proposal 1.8 - A small company of levies should be constructed by the cities of Kart-Hadast, Attiqa and Adrumeto, that can be kept between these three provinces.

Strategic Proposal 1.9 - For my province I [Gisgo, Governor of Ippone] would like permission and troops from the senate to move south of my city and take the region south of Ippone.

Strategic Proposal 1.10 - Along the lines of proposal 1.8 i say that roads be built in as many provinces as possible as this will allow the forces in proposal 1.8 to better defend out homeland from any threats that do come!

Strategic Proposal 1.11 - The fleet near Alalia should be the only one not disbanded with the first turn.

Strategic Proposal 1.13 - Constructing civilian ports where the local terrain allows it should have priority over all but the most urgent of needs.

Strategic proposal 1.14 - Encourage growth in Alalia and build up military facilities to support future operations.

Strategic proposal 1.15 - Concentrate all currently availible offensive forces on taking north-west Africa asap.

Strategic proposal 1.16 - Therefore I propose the building of walls in Bocchoris, Alalia, Karali and Ippone.

Strategic proposal 1.17 - Therefore I propose we raise taxes all over our glorious empire.

Strategic proposal 1.18 - I [Hamalcar, Governor of Lilibeo] must requesition the forces from Atiqa, along with one company of Numidian Cavalry from Kart-Hadast itself, to be sent on a voyage to sicily to bolster my forces there, before they sail though, I ask that we train one company of Dorki Leebi-Feenikim Mookdamim (Liby-Phoecians) in Aqita or Kart-Hadast to be sent along with them, to ensure victory.

Strategic proposal 1.19 - I [Hamalcar, Governor of Lilibeo] also ask that our elephants be kept in our service until at least after I have Syracusai.

Strategic Proposal 1.22 - Admiral Thero will be allowed to retain command over a fleet of 26 of our finest warships. All other fleets will be disbanded.

Proposal 1.25 - Take Kirtan,Siga,Lixus and Sala in Mauritania.

Strategic Proposal 1.26 was just too large, so ignore it, as I've decided it's more of a general guideline, and the same thing can be accomplished by voting for the proper proposals.

You'll still find it on the .txt file, but, like I said, ignore it, as I've decided it's simply too large to be considered one proposal, and the same will be accomplished by voting yay for certain proposals and nay for others.

I'm beginning to think that the live meeting, while useful perhaps for stategic discussion, may be somewhat pointless for voting, as it would be just as easy to write a numbered yes/no response in the council thread.

That being said, have this list handy for the meeting, as we'll just move forward as planned. If, as I fear, it's simply too complicated orgaizing 10+ people to get straight answers, we may still offer the live meetings for talk on strategies, etc., and all voting will be held on these boards.

Thanks for your time.

Bootsiuv

**madmatg** · 10-27-2007, 07:54

what say the rest of the council? i can always remove the post and stick it in here if people think it icky in the council thread and replace it with something else

**Xehh II** · 10-27-2007, 10:17

Since I've missed 16 pages of this could someone please sum it up for me?

**madmatg** · 10-27-2007, 22:11

i vote for spoofa i want syrakusa after kirtan of course

**Boru** · 10-27-2007, 22:47

Sorry for the short notice, in 15 min. i will be making the chat on xfire, so add boru87 if u have not already. Don't worry about being too late as we shall probably still be talking. But the election will be the first thing done, so if you want to take part in that make sure to be there shortly after we start. Thanks and hope to see everyone there!