GOre and friend top candidates for peace price

[discovery1]

http://www.reuters.com/article/envir...18887020071012

Wha? This makes little sense, even factoring in my drunkeness. Peace prize for climate change?

[CountArach]

It doesn't seem right to me. While I admire his work, he doesn't exactly fit into the category.

[naut]

Giving him the Peace Prize would imply that we have a "War on Nature", and I know we have the "War on Terror" and "War on Drugs", but that's just ridiculous.

Surely, a Peace Prize is for work on/in Peace

[Pannonian]

Given the thread title, does this mean the Iraqis will stop fighting if the Americans turn them over?

[Husar]

Maybe global warming is responsible for crop growth and increased extremism in the middle east.

[cegorach]

Don't worry he just got the prize.

My God how ridiculous it is...

[Tribesman]

For highlighting an issue that may lead to mass migrations and competition for resources that may lead to future conflicts over territory ...OK some merit in that , but winning a nobel prize for it....bollox

[naut]

What a load of pure-unadulterated crap. The other options were/are so much more noble.

[Fragony]

Has to be said, not being Bush does comes him kinda naturally. But of course it isn't about all that, the nobel price is an independent institution that isn't hijacked by politico's at all, much like Cannes.

[Stig]

Has to be said, not being Bush does comes him kinda naturally. But of course it isn't about all that, the nobel price is an independent institution that isn't hijacked by politico's at all, much like Cannes.

So true.

Sides this is not for Peace, in the Peace Vs War sense of the word.
Look at last years winners, or Mother Teresa or Martin Luther King.
This is about doing something for the world.

Even tho I don't agree with Gore's views (imo there's no such thing as rapid climate change, sure we might influence it a bit, but nature is still on it's own. Next to that I know of enough climate changes in the past. The Younger Dryas to start with) I see where the Nobel Committee is, Gore raised Global awareness of this issue, and we're seeing change already.

[naut]

You've got a point there Stig, but the other options/nominees (to me anyway) are a lot better.

[KukriKhan]

Poor Al. I guess now he'll hafta take time off his busy schedule to fly with his film crew to receive the prize, document it, and put the film up on that internetz thingee he invented.

[Fragony]

I was being sarcastic Stig, this is a childish stab at the Bush administration, in the same way that every movie Moore makes get the prices in Cannes no matter how much they suck, same with an inconvenient truth which is at best a controversial movie. Pssst propaganda.

[Stig]

I was being sarcastic Stig, this is a childish stab at the Bush administration, in the same way that every movie Moore makes get the prices in Cannes no matter how much they suck, same with an inconvenient truth which is at best a controversial movie. Pssst propaganda.

Everything is propaganda mate
Or do you think Submission is the best movie ever made?

Sides the Nobel Prize Committee is one of the last independent things, why do you think they still award them in Norwegian and Swedish and not in English?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Can't the Bush detractors simply get to the heart of the issue, pass a UN general assembly resolution stating that:

Most of the world thinks you're a flaming rectal sphincter, Mr. Bush, please resign and go back to Texas.

And then give the prizes etc. to more worthy nominees.


I'm not that much against Bush, but if it would help the rest let off a bit of steam and get back to reality......

[Ronin]

Can't the Bush detractors simply get to the heart of the issue, pass a UN general assembly resolution stating that:

Most of the world thinks you're a flaming rectal sphincter, Mr. Bush, please resign and go back to Texas.

And then give the prizes etc. to more worthy nominees.


I'm not that much against Bush, but if it would help the rest let off a bit of steam and get back to reality......

well...they don´t do that because the countries are represented in the UN by their governments politicians....and politicians wouldn´t do something as straight up as that.

Do the Nobel and Cannes people have a political stance?...sure....but since they are independent organizations and not politicians they voice their opinions...nothing wrong with that.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I for one applaud the Nobel committee for recognising the grave threat that climate change caused by human activity presents to the environment itself and to the stability and sustainabilty of the world's societies.

Congrats to Gore, for raising awarness, and to the IPCC for its reports and solutions.


Oh, and since when has global climate chance been reduced to an aspect of very temporary party politics in a single nation representing 4% of the world's population?
I am not so sure that anti-Bushism was foremost in the mind of the Nobel committee. I think it is funny how both a large amount of Americans and the vast amount of America's fiercest critics share the opinion that the world revolves around America.

[naut]

I am not so sure that anti-Bushism was foremost in the mind of the Nobel committee. I think it is funny how both a large amount of Americans and the vast amount of America's fiercest critics share the opinion that the world revolves around America.

QFT. :quickly glances back at posts to prevent embarrassing irony:

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I am not so sure that anti-Bushism was foremost in the mind of the Nobel committee. I think it is funny how both a large amount of Americans and the vast amount of America's fiercest critics share the opinion that the world revolves around America.

A fair point that.

USA politics does matter to a lot of other countries, however, as a result of all of the "leader of the fre world" crap etc. It is not entirely without merit to assume active participation by those impacted.

[HoreTore]

I vote to swap out the nobel committee.

And I'm the only one here who can vote on that too

[HoreTore]

Do the Nobel and Cannes people have a political stance?...sure....but since they are independent organizations and not politicians they voice their opinions...nothing wrong with that.

Quite the opposite, in fact The nobel committee is selected by our government, and a lot of them are ex-politicos...

[Devastatin Dave]

I wonder if he's flying in his "eco friendly" private jet to get there? Hope his bought a LOT of carbon credits for the trip and the hot air we'll hear from his speech.

On a side not, too bad old Nobel Peace prize winner Arafat isn't around. He and Al could fly around training suicide bombers to blow up anyone that disagreed with them.

[English assassin]

Still, it was nice they gave literature to Doris Lessing, wasn't it? She lives just round the corner from me, a very nice old lady.

[Proletariat]

USA politics does matter to a lot of other countries, however, as a result of all of the "leader of the fre world" crap etc. It is not entirely without merit to assume active participation by those impacted.

Also it's an ex-US Vice President who won it, and he won it for a controversial topic in which the US takes (for right or for wrong), almost all the blame. Good point Louis, but I do think in this case it's a very American issue, for both it's detractors and supporters.

[HoreTore]

Statement of the Nobel institute:

http://nobelpeaceprize.org/eng_lau_announce2007.html

THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE FOR 2007

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 is to be shared, in two equal parts, between the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr. for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.

Indications of changes in the earth’s future climate must be treated with the utmost seriousness, and with the precautionary principle uppermost in our minds. Extensive climate changes may alter and threaten the living conditions of much of mankind. They may induce large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the earth’s resources. Such changes will place particularly heavy burdens on the world’s most vulnerable countries. There may be increased danger of violent conflicts and wars, within and between states.

Through the scientific reports it has issued over the past two decades, the IPCC has created an ever-broader informed consensus about the connection between human activities and global warming. Thousands of scientists and officials from over one hundred countries have collaborated to achieve greater certainty as to the scale of the warming. Whereas in the 1980s global warming seemed to be merely an interesting hypothesis, the 1990s produced firmer evidence in its support. In the last few years, the connections have become even clearer and the consequences still more apparent.

Al Gore has for a long time been one of the world’s leading environmentalist politicians. He became aware at an early stage of the climatic challenges the world is facing. His strong commitment, reflected in political activity, lectures, films and books, has strengthened the struggle against climate change. He is probably the single individual who has done most to create greater worldwide understanding of the measures that need to be adopted.

By awarding the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC and Al Gore, the Norwegian Nobel Committee is seeking to contribute to a sharper focus on the processes and decisions that appear to be necessary to protect the world’s future climate, and thereby to reduce the threat to the security of mankind. Action is necessary now, before climate change moves beyond man’s control.

Oslo, 12 October 2007

[Viking]

Gore is definately someone suited for the price, yep.

[Kralizec]

On a side not, too bad old Nobel Peace prize winner Arafat isn't around. He and Al could fly around training suicide bombers to blow up anyone that disagreed with them.

I didn't know Arafat had one, so I looked it up. He got it along with Yitzak Rabin for the Oslo accords (those Norwegians again, hmmm). I actually think that one had a lot more merit then Gore's award, even if the Oslo accords didn't deliver what was hoped for. It's supposed to be the Nobel prize for peace afterall- the reasoning in the statement that HoreTore cited is utter fabrication.

[Stig]

I wonder if he's flying in his "eco friendly" private jet to get there? Hope his bought a LOT of carbon credits for the trip and the hot air we'll hear from his speech.

On a side not, too bad old Nobel Peace prize winner Arafat isn't around. He and Al could fly around training suicide bombers to blow up anyone that disagreed with them.

So, Bush should have got one after destroying everything Clinton made?
Or for the War in Iraq maybe, afterall, he did improve the situation there, without Hussein, it's a real peace there now.


@Kraz, nowadays it's only named Nobel Prize for Peace, so many have gotten it for something that had little to do with peace. It's about doing something for the world ... and most of the time that somehow involves peace.

[HoreTore]

@Kraz, nowadays it's only named Nobel Prize for Peace, so many have gotten it for something that had little to do with peace. It's about doing something for the world ... and most of the time that somehow involves peace.

No, it's named Nobel's Peace Prize, not for peace...

It's role has been debated a lot here in norway over the last years, as it has shifted it's position quite dramatically to also include things that indirectly affects war and peace, like working against poverty(grameen bank) and enviromentalism(like al and the chick 3-4 years ago).

I for one is not very happy about this.

[Devastatin Dave]

[QUOTE=Stig]So, Bush should have got one after destroying everything Clinton made?
The only thing Clinton make was a spunk spot on a fat chicks blue dress.
@Kral... You don't give the Nobel Peace Prize to someone that was an active terrorist. And remember, it was the Clinton (the Gore was VP in)administration that authorised the bombing of Serbian residential area and rejected the Kyoted treaty the first time. Gore and most of his supporteres are more full of #### than a Thanksgiving turkey.