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    so what are the provinces that allow your governer to recieve the Provincial Governor trait. the readme mentions sicily are there any others?

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    I believe one of the team members said there would be governors available for the empire as it was in Caesar's time, excluding Italy.

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    Hm, off the top of my head theres:

    Corsica et Sardinia
    Sicilia
    Africa Vetus
    Africa Nova
    Cyrenacia
    Hispania Ulterior
    Hispania Interior
    Gallia Comata
    Gaul this side of the Alps
    Gaul further side of the Alps
    Illyricum
    Macedonia
    Achaea
    Asia
    Cicilia
    Judea
    Aegyptus

    might be a couple others too, I cant remember which all made it in.

    In the future there will be others like Noricum, Cappadocia, etc.


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    wow thats amazing. but could you be a bit specific. for example if u want to be governer of sicily then u'll have to send your propraetor, proconsular, rector to syracuse. sardina et corsica i think he has to go to karali? what about the other provinces? i think this should be included in the faq otherwise the player won't know where to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kemozz
    wow thats amazing. but could you be a bit specific. for example if u want to be governer of sicily then u'll have to send your propraetor, proconsular, rector to syracuse. sardina et corsica i think he has to go to karali? what about the other provinces? i think this should be included in the faq otherwise the player won't know where to go.
    Off the topic of my head, I remember you need the 3 cities in Sicily for governor of Sicily.

    You need Corsica and Sardinia for another one. That's about all I remember.



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    thanks for the reply ice. i loved playing the romans before and now i am just crazy about them. but figuring out what provinces give what traits is going to be a prob. i've also noticed that you get an axcillary for the province that you govern but sometimes the character has 8 axcillaries stacked so u'll probably have to give away some of those axc to other characters. would it be a big problem to limit the number of axc a character could get to maybe lets say 6. that way u'll have two spare axc to use for the provinces. its just a suggestion i know its not very practical specially that the other factions don't get province specifec axc, but its just a suggestion.

    well if anyone has any info about what other provinces give the provincial governer traits please post here. so far i've figured out syracuse (sicily), karali (corsica and sardina), carthage (old africa) and am still looking for the others :)

    cheers

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    I cant rememeber the names of all the provinces but if you look at a map of the roman republic its pretty easy to tell what territories you need to constitute a provincia.


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    O'right, so far i've figured out the following provinces:

    Corsica et Sardinia - karali
    Sicilia - syracuse
    Africa Vetus - carthage

    Africa Nova - ?
    Cyrenacia - ?
    Hispania Ulterior- ?
    Hispania Interior-?
    Gallia Comata -?
    Gaul this side of the Alps - ?
    Gaul further side of the Alps - tolosa
    Illyricum - ?
    Macedonia - ?
    Achaea- ?
    Asia - ?
    Cicilia - ?
    Judea - ?
    Aegyptus- ?

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    An update to those of you that are interested in this:

    Corsica et Sardinia - karali
    Sicilia - syracuse
    Africa Vetus - carthage
    Africa Nova - ?
    Cyrenacia - ?
    Hispania Ulterior- Scum(something) its in spain to the top right corner of gades
    Hispania Interior-?
    Gallia Comata -?
    Gaul this side of the Alps - ?
    Gaul further side of the Alps - tolosa
    Illyricum - ?
    Macedonia - Pella
    Achaea- ?
    Asia - ?
    Cicilia - ?
    Judea - ?
    Aegyptus- ?

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    Hello there,

    I noted that one has to have at least level 3 gov in the respective provinces. In my game, Syrakuse had a gov4, the other ones gov2 and gov3, nothing happened ... I waited. As I waited further, 'Corsica et Sardinia' happened (gov2 & gov3). Now I changed Syrakuse to gov2, et voilà: 'Sicilia' happened to me.

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    well yeah, obviously. You cant have a province without a province, you know.


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    O'right i just got this off wikipedia, for those of you playing the romans and are into role playing this might be of some use :D

    List of Republican provinces:
    241 BC Sicilia, propraetorial province (EB Capital Syracuse)
    231 BC Corsica et Sardinia, propraetorial province (EB Capital Karali)
    197 BC Hispania Citerior, propraetorial provinces
    197 BC Hispania Ulterior, propraetorial provinces (EB Capital Scum....)
    167 BC Illyricum, propraetorial province
    146 BC Macedonia-Achaea, propraetorial province (EB Capital Pella)
    146 BC Africa proconsularis, proconsular province (EB Capital Carthage)
    129 BC Asia, proconsular province
    120 BC Gallia Transalpina, propraetorial province (EB Capital Tolosa)
    81 BC Gallia Cisalpina, propraetorial province
    74 BC Bithynia, propraetorial province
    74 BC Cyrenaica et Creta, propraetorial province
    64 BC Cilicia et Cyprus, propraetorial province
    64 BC Syria, propraetorial province
    30 BC Aegyptus, propraetorial province, special governor Praefectus Aegypti
    29 BC Moesia, propraetorial province

    anybody else please try to fill in the blanks those are the ones i've been able to confirm. All settlements had type II govermnet. would anybody from the EB team confirm if the governor of egypt gets this special title?

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    I had to do some digging but i finally figured it out. In order to acquire the provincial governer ancillary here are the provinces that you need to conquer:

    Governor of Sicily
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Syrakousai*, Messana*, Lilibeo

    Governor of Corsica and Sardinia
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Alalia*, Karali*

    Governor of Africa Vetus
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Kart-Hadast*, Adrumeto*, Atiqa

    Governor of Gallia Cisalpina
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Patavium*, Bononia*, Segesta*

    Governor of Hispania Citerior
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Emporion*, Mastia*, Arse*

    Governor of Hispania Ulterior
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Baikor*, Sucum-Murgi*, Gader*

    Governor of Gallia Narbonensis
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Province: Massalia*, Tolosa*

    Governor of Macedonia
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Pella*, Demetrias*, Thermon*, Ambrakia*

    Governor of Asia
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Pergamon*, Sardis*, Halikarnassos*

    Governor of Achaea
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Athenai*, Korinthos*, Sparte*

    Governor of Bithynia
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provines: Nikaia*, Amaseia*, Sinope*

    Governor of Africa Nova
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Lepki*, Kirtan*, Ippone

    Governor of Syria
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Antiocheia*, Sidon*, Damaskos*

    Governor of Judaea
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    Provinces: Hierosolyma*

    Governor of Gallia Comata
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Viennos*, Burdigala, Gergovia

    Governor of Cyrenacia
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Provinces: Kyrene*, Augila*, Ammonion, Paraitonion*


    *A character ending a turn in these settlements should acquire the governer ancillary
    Last edited by kemozz; 10-24-2007 at 05:07.

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    These are working fine:
    Governor of Sicily
    Governor of Corsica and Sardinia
    Governor of Africa Vetus
    Governor of Hispania Citerior
    Governor of Hispania Ulterior
    Governor of Gallia Narbonensis
    Governor of Macedonia
    Governor of Achaea
    Governor of Asia

    This isn't working:
    Governor of Gallia Cisalpina

    Those i haven't had the chance to acquire:
    Governor of Bithynia
    Governor of Africa Nova
    Governor of Syria
    Governor of Judaea
    Governor of Gallia Comata
    Governor of Cyrenacia
    Last edited by kemozz; 11-08-2007 at 21:29.

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    hi guys sorry to keep bring this up again but i just love the prov gov additon in this edition of EB but was any one able to get the ancillary for:

    1. Governor of Achaea
    2. Governor of Gallia Cisalpina

    in your romani campaign?

    thanks

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    Gallia Cisaplina is working. You receive the title in Bononia, I believe.

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    How sure are that that list is complete? Have you looked trough some files that EB has changed?

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    looks complete to me. others may be added in 1.1 or may just wait for EBII.


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    What do these ancillaries actually do? Do they enlarge the chance of getting certain traits?

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    the ancilliary is the trigger which grants your character the 'prconsul' 'propraetor' or 'rector' trait, depending on his rank. These traits grant benefits to governing the province while the governor remains within his province.


    "urbani, seruate uxores: moechum caluom adducimus. / aurum in Gallia effutuisti, hic sumpsisti mutuum." --Suetonius, Life of Caesar

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    i got the information from the export_descr_ancillaries text file located in the EB folder. it should be complete.

    thanks for the insight Barrabas, technically you should be able to recieve the governor of Gallia Cisalpina in either Patavium, Bononia or Segesta i was unsuccessful in acquiring the trait in my current campaign. i'll try to give it another shot today. i'am also having the same problem with the governor of Achaea. anyways, the provincial governor is a great addition something that i used to roleplay on my own and i am extremly delighted that the EB team included this feature. it makes the experience 100% genuine

    cheers

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    for some reason some of these ancillaries are easier to get than others, i think it should be straight forward so here is my question. to acquire the prov governor trait these are the conditions:

    Trigger acquire_Governor_of_Sicily_Syrakousai
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
    Condition FactionType seleucid
    and EndedInSettlement
    and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
    and IsGeneral
    and SettlementName Syrakousai
    and I_SettlementOwner Messana = seleucid
    and I_SettlementOwner Lilibeo = seleucid
    and SettlementBuildingExists > gov4
    and SettlementBuildingExists < govparthian
    and Attribute Electability < 11
    and not FactionwideAncillaryExists Governor_of_Sicily

    AcquireAncillary Governor_of_Sicily Chance 100
    Affects NumAncillariesAcquired 1 Chance 100

    what are:
    and RemainingMPPercentage = 100 and
    and Attribute Electability < 11

    cuz it sure does take a lot of time to get the Governor of Asia and Governor of Achaea. it took only a few turns to get the Governor of Sicily.
    Last edited by kemozz; 11-15-2007 at 13:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kemozz
    what are:
    and RemainingMPPercentage = 100 and
    and Attribute Electability < 11
    RemainingMPPercentage = remaining Movement Points Percentage. This is 100% if the character has not moved at all during the last turn.

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    Yesterday I gained my first Provincia ancillary in a quite odd way: after conquering Lilibeo I installed the usual regional pacification thingy so in Sicily I had a type 5 gov in Lilibeo, a type 4 in Syracuse and a type 3 in Messana. I thought that for gaining the ancillary at least a type 3 in evey city of the province was needed, but the next turn the governor in Messana got the ancillary and then the train. This is working as intended or a bug?

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    Type 5 gov?

    Whats that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharnakes
    Type 5 gov?

    Whats that?
    Regional Pacification aka Provisional Military Government

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    Just to clarify here, the EB team does not call the Regional Pacification a "type 5 government." It has come into use in the forums but not in any official sense. IIRC it was distinguished this way on the EB building map as shorthand to refer to that, but it's not supposed to represent a legitimate form of government beyond a temporary military crackdown and imposition of order after conquest.
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