BAH!! to RTW

[BozosLiveHere]

Wait, you guys are complaining that the AI for once is using the rules of the game to its favor instead of throwing itself recklessly at a bottleneck set up by the player?

[Gazius]

Wait, you guys are complaining that the AI for once is using the rules of the game to its favor instead of throwing itself recklessly at a bottleneck set up by the player?

No, and I admire the AI for what it did, even if it did stand at the tower stupidly for a bit. I'm just annoyed that RTW doesn't give me an option to surrender and recognize that I lost without me dying entirely. I gave them a near pyrrhic victory, but since the AI would not finish the battle, nor could I, and with no game mechanic to surrender, I had to choose exit battle, which gave them back entire units I killed.

[NightStar]

Yep it can be pretty annoying that the A.I often recovers 1/2 of their casualties after battle if "you lose". Makes it a lot harder to wither them down with skirmishing horse archers or some such.

[Dooz]

Battle time limit is the only answer. It's not that bad either. I used to always have it off, as I felt it didn't make sense but I've started using it recently and it works well. 45 minutes should be plenty for any battle, and if not, a Draw is a nice result for a full day's battle.

[Gazius]

Battle time limit is the only answer. It's not that bad either. I used to always have it off, as I felt it didn't make sense but I've started using it recently and it works well. 45 minutes should be plenty for any battle, and if not, a Draw is a nice result for a full day's battle.

Perhaps I'll give it a try, but, in the case of that battle, it was well over an hour, though the first hour was mostly me trying to get the AI to do a stupid assualt.

[Zangor]

Battle time limit is the only answer. It's not that bad either. I used to always have it off, as I felt it didn't make sense but I've started using it recently and it works well. 45 minutes should be plenty for any battle, and if not, a Draw is a nice result for a full day's battle.

*pops out of lurking*

I used to play with time limits on in vanilla, until I failed to take Athens because of the damn timer, when it was in a situation where the enemy had no possible way of winning, and my troops were marching into the town center

But, the annoying "enemy just sits" happens often enough that I might start using it again.

*pops back into lurking*

[Dooz]

Whoa... there's a rare sighting. 2 posts in 2.5 years? I wonder what the first one was......

[bovi]

No game mechanic to surrender

Umm, I think that a surrender at that point would mean all your guys would be killed. Since you've killed a majority of their force, I mean. Also there's no chivalry in ancient times.

[Gazius]

Umm, I think that a surrender at that point would mean all your guys would be killed. Since you've killed a majority of their force, I mean. Also there's no chivalry in ancient times.

Then let them die. I didn't really expect them to survive, and my exit battle killed them all anyways, I just want my kills on their force registered. Or in the case where neither can attack, a return to siege/strategic mode. A relatively simple piece of game code I would assume. Eh, whatever.

[bovi]

Oh, in that case Exit Battle is your friend, and does just that. The kills are registered, however some casualties are healed for the victor, sometimes a lot of them.

I think siege battles end once the attacker has no siege equipment and all defenders are within the walls. But of course it's a bug that the AI won't finish the job by picking up the siege equipment in the first place.

[Gazius]

Oh, in that case Exit Battle is your friend, and does just that. The kills are registered, however some casualties are healed for the victor, sometimes a lot of them.

But... entire units sprung back up. First kill I made was of 3-cubit arrows. I had both calvary units on them, and I made sure all 60 died. How did it spring back to life as if uninjured? Perhaps I'll experiment on this more.