New Skin of Roman Units

[bovi]

Use 7-zip on the installer.

[Respenus]

Wait just a second!

Is it possible to use old models in 1.0?

[Tellos Athenaios]

It is. But it requires quite a lot of reversing things EB did... And frankly, I don't think there's much point in doing it anyway.

[Zaknafien]

yeah, why would anyone want lower quality, inaccurate units..?

[Kampfkrebs]

What about saying "Many many thanks Xprime for sacrificing your spare time and delivering us such a beatiful and detailed model!"

Instead of: "Can I have the _OLD_(!!!) stuff, please?"

Its more than rude, and it hurts. Alot.

[The Celt]

What about saying "Many many thanks Xprime for sacrificing your spare time and delivering us such a beatiful and detailed model!"

Instead of: "Can I have the _OLD_(!!!) stuff, please?"

Its more than rude, and it hurts. Alot.

Hey hey hey wait a second! He said that the new Romans looked good! He just thought they were too out of place and preferred the old ones. There is no need for you guys to get all aggressive.

You shouldn't be bashing someone after they've politely stated their opinion that does not agree with yours. Need I remind you, this is the kind of mentality that EB was made to stand against. I like Xprimes Romans as well and I'm sure everybody is thankful for the hard work he put into them. But I also liked the old Romans despite their inaccuracies since they fit with the other factions' units and overall feel better IMHO. That is not saying EB should get the old Roman units out and replace Xprimes. No one was saying that at all!(at least not in this particular thread)


Granted, there are a lot of threads on this.

[A Terribly Harmful Name]

Maybe they should have taken the trousers out of the old Romans and made a complete reskin of Romani units before making it official. Otherwise people complain.

[mighty_rome]

The new units do look good. They are more detailed than the previous ones and they are attractive. However, I agree that they do not match with the rest of the Romani units. The main thing is that they aren't scaled the same, it you look closely; their heads are clearly larger than the other Romani units. We appreciate the work all of your developers have done, and I would hope the creator of these units can handle it if we critique his work, you have to expect it when you create any type of artwork. (I am a professional graphic designer so I know how it is)

In my line of work I get requests for things that look much worse than the "new" version all the time, it's just the way it is. Some people are much more picky than others, or they have different tastes.

In my opinion the coolest looking unit ever made for EB was the 0.81 Cohors Evocata. While it may not have been totally accurate it sure did look cool, and it was of course made in the correct scale. So, I honestly think I would at least temporarily like to have this unit back, so if anyone figures out everything you have to do to get it back please let me know.

When my company redesigns a set of graphics, we redo it all in one shot so everything matches and is in the same style. I realize that in this case it wouldn't be practical to hold up the release to allow for one person to redo the entire Romani unit roster, and you simply wanted to show some of his work. That is fine and like I said, they do look cool, especially the Centurion. I just think they need to be scaled down slightly so they're bodies are the same size as the others. They don't need to be redone, just scaled. There's nothing wrong with the unit other than the scale. Yes, this would make them shorter, but that's fine, the Romani weren't known for their height :)

[-sKy-]

What about saying "Many many thanks Xprime for sacrificing your spare time and delivering us such a beatiful and detailed model!"

Instead of: "Can I have the _OLD_(!!!) stuff, please?"

Its more than rude, and it hurts. Alot.

As The_Celt said: i don`t think that the new skins/modells are ugly, they are quite good!
But i am not happy with the fact that they are a little bit bigger than the other Roman units... and because of that i asked how to get the old ones...

[antisocialmunky]

What about saying "Many many thanks Xprime for sacrificing your spare time and delivering us such a beatiful and detailed model!"

Instead of: "Can I have the _OLD_(!!!) stuff, please?"

Its more than rude, and it hurts. Alot.

Its not rude, its a critique.

They do look good but, as some other have mentioned, they are out of place. Just take it as a friendly critique for 1.X and keep in mind - one artist to another or one game designer to a modder - that its not how good one thing looks, its the over all product. If something look out of place even if it is marvelous or a turd or just out of place - as is in our case, it can be detrimental over all. Consistency is usually the best goal to shoot for.

P.S. - Actually this kinda reminds me of when we convinced Prometheus to redo all the samurai models for Ran no Jidai because they looked too tall and thin.

[J.Alco]

I haven't downloaded the mod yet, so I can't really speak for either side here. But I do have to say that the new Romani skins look absolutely awesome. However, comparing them to the other Romani units on the website's unit page, you CAN kinda see that they aren't quite in the same proportion as the rest of the models, so I'm also seeing where this whole 'new Roman skins are too big' argument is coming from.

Maybe if someone posted an in-game screenshot of the new skins next to the rest of the Roman units we could see if its really true that they're larger than their comrades or not?

[Legatus Legionis]

Yes screenshots would be nice. I'm curious. I haven't istalled 1.0 yet because i wait till i have my new computer.
How do the Praetorians now look like? Here on a germanhistory forum they are talking about that their field equipment was exactly the same as reglular Legionaries. The only difference would be that Praetorians had oval shields instead of rectangular ones.

[-sKy-]

Maybe if someone posted an in-game screenshot of the new skins next to the rest of the Roman units we could see if its really true that they're larger than their comrades or not?

Here we go: