No further patches for M2TW or Kingdoms (update: Kingdoms patch announced)

[hrvojej]

Just pointing out the obvious isn't going to work anymore. Witness the load/save bug of RTW. After that was discovered by a player and verified by other players, CA insisted that the game was intentionally designed that way. Obviously, they knew about this all along and never said anything. Only after a great deal of public outcry, in spite of the topic being banned from discussion at .com, did CA back down and change load/save to retain the state of the game when saving. When the players who care that the game works properly are up against that kind of resistance from the company there really isn't much hope of getting things fixed up let alone maintaining the quality of the tactical simulation or having the strategic game be something more than a huge number of clicks to an inevitable conclusion.

True. The discovery and subsequent treatment of the load/save bug in RTW was what made me leave, as it simply felt pointless to even argue that something that serious just has to be fixed.

Reading those old VI threads surely brings back memories of a somewhat different age.

[SpencerH]

Its amazing to me to see how the attitudes of "old hands" have changed over the years with each successive TW disappointment. The whole situation is just sad.