Quote Originally Posted by Whacker
Also I'll throw this out here just for discussion's sake. While I completely reject Lusted's "we listen to threads but not petitions" response, if one were to accept his statements as gospel, then closing even a few threads is essentially cutting off a not-insignificant chunk of our communications with CA and trying to get the message across. Of course I don't really agree with this form of logic, but again based on what's been said it's worth considering.
For the readership of the thread let me preface this by saying Whacker and I share a mutual respect for one anothers approach and tact to posting. As Bob Dylan once said "we always did feel the same, we just saw it from a different point of view"

@Whacker I've spent plenty of time here at the org as a poster, and time at TW center as a casual observer. While my opinion of moderation at both sites has declined a lot recently, to be fair I find it hard to find an awful lot of fault with modderation of threads here at the org. TWcenter is a different animal, but at the org, tin cow is right they allow a pretty consistant soapbox.

As far as Lusted's comments if you were to step back and look at it from his point of view he really has no win position. We can all speculate as to the decision making process at CA/publisher,and business practices but in all honesty I find that his commentary and participation to be a refreshing engagement to the populace as opposed to a blatant retreat.

What I find lacking in your well thought out posts is the fact that you made the choice to purchase MTW2. You know how the pc gaming industry works, and you also know that games, expansions and even patches are never 100%. That is the current business model, and you are supporting it (I did see your pick of the discs for the tw games you posted, I think that was you).

You again make fair arguments supported by a fair degree of logic, but my friend I dont see any ownership taken by gamers. A lot of us here have been around the bloc on many games, this is hardly a new circumstance and expecting CA to change a business model (which they may or may not be contractually obligated to enforce) negates your power as the end user, and devalues your critiques of thier practices.