I haven't been attacked once in 80 turns

[mighty_rome]

My Romani campaign is in 252BC, I am at war with the Aedui, Carthage and Epeiros... and none of them have made any attempt whatsoever to attack me, even though they appear to have plenty of units (I used toggle_fow). I have also had a grand total of one rebel stack spawn in my lands, but it didn't attack me either.

It just isn't as fun when I am the one who initiates every battle. I actually want to be invaded, it'd certainly make things more interesting (and should happen when you're at war with powerful factions). I really remember being attacked much more in 0.81... have I just been unlucky or is this how it is for everyone else too?

I also noticed a full Koinon Hellenon stack standing next to Thermon for about 15 years without any movement. KH/Makedonia/Epeiros have been at war with each other for 20 years, but they just aren't fighting at all. The same stacks stand almost motionless for years.

I know you guys are severely limited by hardcoded AI routines, but I am just wondering if something was changed to somehow make the AI less aggressive. I have been seeing full stacks standing next to rebel/enemy towns for dozens of turns without any movement whatsoever. Just so you know, I am playing on VH campaign/M battles.

Also, I don't want you to take this the wrong way; I love the mod, but I just want to let you guys know how things are going in my campaign, which I assume you want to know since you just released a new version. Feedback is usually a good thing..

[bovi]

Haven't the AI taken any settlements either? You can expect a lot of action later, particularly after 240BC.

[mighty_rome]

Some settlements have been taken, but overall things havent been too active. One exception is Carthage, who have conquered much of Africa. But they never attack me, which sucks.. I want to fight. :(

I've been waiting for swarms of "barbarians" to swoop down upon me, or an invasion from Carthage or Epeiros, but it just didn't happen. And Epeiros had a full stack just across the sea from Taras but they never invaded in 75+ turns.

Most factions have had huge stacks just standing next to rebel settlements for dozens of turns. Or huge stacks standing around doing nothing, when an enemy settlement is 1 turn's march away. Again, I know there probably isn't much that can be done, but I just thought I'd let you guys know how things have gone in my campaign.

[Sarkiss]

Some settlements have been taken, but overall things havent been too active. One exception is Carthage, who have conquered much of Africa. But they never attack me, which sucks.. I want to fight. :(

I've been waiting for swarms of "barbarians" to swoop down upon me, or an invasion from Carthage or Epeiros, but it just didn't happen. And Epeiros had a full stack just across the sea from Taras but they never invaded in 75+ turns.

try BI exe
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=88717

i wish i had such a peaceful campaign

[mlc82]

I'm playing 1.0 with Barbarian Invasion, as Romani, it's 248BC and the AI has been going suicidally berzerk on me almost the entire time. I'm playing on campaign difficulty VH and, after running the Epirotes out of Italy, I conquered Taras and Rhegion, only to have the Koinon Hellenon land a staggering force of 2 units next to Taras (which was garrisoned with 5) and besiege it. ;) Carthage came after me next, also invading Italy from the sea but just the same using tiny 4-5 unit stacks which is not threatening at all, just annoying. Good old hardcoded TW AI there I'm sure.

The Epirotes, after agreeing to a peace treaty, are the only faction so far to land an enormous full stack right in between Roma and Arretium, however they just stand there and don't do much besides occasionally going to stand next to Arpi instead, then right back between Roma and Arretium.

[mighty_rome]

It really seems that the AI is reluctant to initiate a siege, even if they would win. This is the scenario I've been seeing a lot as I've been looking around while playing with FOW off. Huge stack, enemy town with small/medium garrison but no siege. I always keep all my units inside my cities. Maybe if I leave some outside of the cities that would make them more willing to attack..? I don't know, I am just trying to figure it out. 80 turns is a very long time to go without having a city ever come under siege. I really like a challenge, so I actually want to be attacked in full force... :)

[mighty_rome]

I was thinking about trying BI, so it appears now is the time to give it a shot. How stable is it with EB 1.0, though? Does it seem to work OK with it?

[mlc82]

I was thinking about trying BI, so it appears now is the time to give it a shot. How stable is it with EB 1.0, though? Does it seem to work OK with it?

So far it's working fine for me, I've only played til 240-something BC so far however, so I'm really just getting started.

[Landwalker]

It really seems that the AI is reluctant to initiate a siege, even if they would win. This is the scenario I've been seeing a lot as I've been looking around while playing with FOW off. Huge stack, enemy town with small/medium garrison but no siege. I always keep all my units inside my cities. Maybe if I leave some outside of the cities that would make them more willing to attack..? I don't know, I am just trying to figure it out. 80 turns is a very long time to go without having a city ever come under siege. I really like a challenge, so I actually want to be attacked in full force... :)

I've seen just the opposite, looking around with FOW. In my Epeiros campaign, Koinon Hellenon attempted to lay siege to both Chalkis and Korinthos after I captured them from the Macedonians, and Rome besieged Taras three or four times before finally capturing it. Aside from anti-player assaults, though, Carthage has expanded to most of western Africa, and although Rome has only managed to capture Bononia and Taras, they've laid siege (and unsuccessfully assaulted) Segesta no less than four times so far. The Saka have almost wiped out Pahlava, and both the Sauromatae and Baktrians have done a fair bit of expanding of their own.

Cheers.

[Mister V]

It's interesting that I have not seen the described kind of AI activity even with the BI.ex (been playing on H/M or VH/M).
I must say that I've been playing with BI.exe from the moment when Rome Total Realism Platinum was released, on through EB 0.8, 0.81 (it's too early in the campaign to judge the 1.0 version yet) and I have seen absolutely NO changes in AI behaviour. Well, I have noticed some subtle ones, like smarter reinforcement logistics, but otherwise I have yet to see the AI land one unit on my territory. I do remember Carthage reinforcing Lilybaeum with units - once. That's all.
I'm playing Carthage now, and it doesn't look like much changed. Except for some reason rebels now dare to attack cities (?!), which causes more annoyance than harm.

[mlc82]

I"m getting annoyed with BI on mine, the I'm about another 40 turns into my game and the AI cannot stop compulsively sending 2-4 unit "armies" to land in Italy and randomly besiege my cities (and then be easily destroyed). So far I've been suicidally attacked by KH and Carthage, and have a huge, apparently peaceful Aedui army led by their faction leader whos now been standing next to Segesta for over 10 yrs! The huge Aedui army and a huge Epirote one (landed in Italy after a peace treaty, hasn't done anything but randomly move around and terrify me) are the only ones who HAVEN'T attacked me yet, but the 2 unit armies (usually a skirmisher and a militia unit) love to.

[Dooz]

I'm seeing AI shipping armies around every time I look around the map. Always. Whether it be the Ptollies landing units on Krete, Maks in Rhodes, Greeks in Africa, Carthage in Italy, Rome in Corsica, something is always going down. This is BI.exe I'm talking about of course. This seems to be the case with a lot of other people as well so I'm pretty sure it's a reliable thing.

[Bootsiuv]

It would appear the AI in RTW is too docile, while the AI in BI is suicidally stupid. Interesting choices. I don't really see how EB could fix this though.

I've never seen a peaceful campaign like that....you sure your not playing on easy campaign difficulty? Even medium usually sees some attacks by 248.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Am using EB 1.0 + plain RTW no BI or whatever.
I see:
-1) The Ptolemies; the Epeirotes; the Romani; the Qartadastim use ships real often. I saw the KH & Maks do so as well; but their ships got all destroyed; and their economy is pretty much to hell after all the war they've been through.
-2) The Ptolemies empty their garrisons to throw at me; I'm AS so that's no surprise. I got fed up with them sneaking ashore to drop Peltastai from Salamis or Galatian Kleruchs from Alexandreia so I've made an end to that...

[general_varro]

this happened to me in my saka campaign. i wasnt being attacked...so i was advised to uninstall and reinstall everything...it worked. i might have had a different mod affecting my gameplay

[mighty_rome]

It would appear the AI in RTW is too docile, while the AI in BI is suicidally stupid. Interesting choices. I don't really see how EB could fix this though.

It sounds like you've hit the nail right on the head. I'm not sure which is better but maybe I'll give BI a try.

I've never seen a peaceful campaign like that....you sure your not playing on easy campaign difficulty? Even medium usually sees some attacks by 248.

Yeah I am sure.


I am wondering if increasing the amount of money the AI has would increase the amount of units they make? (and send out to war?) I've been a forum "lurker" and an EB player for years but I just recently tried doing mods of my own.

[Bootsiuv]

Do you have a mod of your own which might be screwing up something with 1.0?

[general_varro]

i was a bad boy....i was so excited to play i just loaded up eb and went into it. there was no ctds or anything...no attacks either...i was alive after 50 or so turns...which just shouldnt happen...hahahah i did have a different mod installed that i had been playing for some months (roma surrectum).

[Bootsiuv]

Other mods can screw up EB....if you want other mods, just put them in a different copy of R:TW from your EB installation. That's what I do (I have XGM, RoP, EB, and Roma Surrectum all installed on my computer, but they're all in a different copy of Rome). Never experienced any problems using this method.

[mighty_rome]

Nope, no mods. I think I am going go try BI though.