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    howcome they NEVER get broken fromt he front? =( i remember in vanilla rtw where the phalanx could actually be broken through in the front sometimes, i mean in all those city battles the phalanxes will always win because its impossible to break through it in the front =(, even with 3000 units going against one phalanx, i do this all the time as the greeks since all the phalanxes need to due is one unit covers each side and u'll hold off 2 armies if u want to

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    Well, you can break through it by ordering your units to a point just behind the phalanx units, thereby taking heavy losses for your own units trying to break through, but will eventually manage to make it past the pikes and then can commence attacking the pikemen directly.

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    I haven't tested this with 1.0, but in 0.81, hoplites had annoying ability to break trough almost any formation, almost as if in BI-Shieldwall (though not as suicidal IIRC). However, I'm not sure if this was with primary or secondary attack.

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    oh id like to mention that the 'naked' skirmishers[the ones with like no armour like numidians] have too much melee attack maybe?i sent a TWO THOUSAND$ worth equite unit to go kill it and it owned my equites without even losing like 20 guys, and yes im on medium difficulty

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZinedineZidane
    oh id like to mention that the 'naked' skirmishers[the ones with like no armour like numidians] have too much melee attack maybe?i sent a TWO THOUSAND$ worth equite unit to go kill it and it owned my equites without even losing like 20 guys, and yes im on medium difficulty
    That's because equites and rather all Roman calvalry are pretty crappy. If you want to run them down try using mercenary or auxilia calvalry

    Also the naked guys have two hitpoints each (to simulate the fact that they took pain reliving drugs before battle) so you'll need to "kill" them twice.

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    the equites in reality werent that crappy, their job was to chase down skirmishers, i understand if they cant beat that misthorpori theuropori [the one with a bunch of armour] ones, but numidian skirmishers and hellenic skirmishers with no armour they should be able to beat

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZinedineZidane
    howcome they NEVER get broken fromt he front? =( i remember in vanilla rtw where the phalanx could actually be broken through in the front sometimes, i mean in all those city battles the phalanxes will always win because its impossible to break through it in the front =(, even with 3000 units going against one phalanx, i do this all the time as the greeks since all the phalanxes need to due is one unit covers each side and u'll hold off 2 armies if u want to

    Well a narrow road would be perfect for defence, provided the enemy can't attack from behind. Try to pass through those pikes. Just can't do it unless you have suicidal men throwing themselves on them. In reality you would have soldiers climbing on roofs and throwing bricks, others burning houses, etc not to mention that a real city isn't so well designed. However you don't have this option in RTW making the phalanxes ideal and almost undefeatable in sieges.

    A tip: Fire arrows on them, attack with numerous soldiers and take another route with cavalry to engage from behind. No other way works.

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