some units too hard to kill?
like freaking skirmishers with no armour, i'll send a unit of armoured cataphracts and they have to stab them like 10 times just to kill 1 guy, i mean i understand that units need more morale and stuff so u can make tactical decisions, but some units are freaking too hard to kill, i would expect u only need 1-3 whacks at an unarmoured guy to kill it =/
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Each person is a representation of about ten I think, so theres your ten stabs to kill.
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Really?! I didnt know they put a ratio system in this game. Thats cool, and would explain why when my Eqvites Romani charge skirmishers I lose almost a third of my cav to destroy their whole unit.Originally Posted by JeffBag
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Another reason might be that you don't want equites staying in combat. In fact, the same goes for most cavalry - you charge, do some damage, pull back and charge again (2 charges per minute are the minimum, imo).
I tend to pair cavalry units - one charges, the other advances slowly, the first retreats, the second charges while the first reforms, etc..
I also prefer to use cavalry in deep formations rather than wide formations, charges seem more effective that way (and it makes them easier to manoevre, in my experience).
Oh, and they better not be Thracian skirmishers.. scythe-blades and horses don't mix!
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That doesnt make a lick of sense, as that would then be suggesting that the cataphracts would be ten times their displayed number and therefore wouldnt be one guy doing "ten stabs", but rather ten X the displayed single soldiers doing X amount of stabs, thereby nullifying the notion that it's 1 cataphract having to kill 10 soldiers that are not represented on the battlefield.
Aside from that, there has been no official mention of that being what EB is aiming for in terms of battle mechanics.
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^ I had this problem in EB .81 too. I would have like 5 (on large ~ 400-500 troops) units of princpes trying to kill a single enemy who was left during the siege...usually it'd take like half a minute. If that single enemy was the general...it takes me like 5 minutes just to kill him
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What is your campaign and battle difficulty?
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I suppose not all those stabs were hits? That's what the units have a defense value for: they evade hits. Yesterday I had a battle in which Equites Consulares attacked Velites. Not that the Consulares suffered serious casulties but they had quite some problem with killing those guys. I watched three horsemen stabbing and striking at one Velite without placing a single hit. After some time, one of the three seemed to become bored and rode away, while the skirmisher was finally killed by a fourth rider that passed by and pierced him.
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ok 1st thing is 1st...
What battle difficutly were u playing in???
2nd: Equites are not really good cavarly. Thier charge is OKish and the melee is not that great.
3rd: WHAT skermisher were u fighitng???
4th: Velites have spears, so they will give cavarly a hard time.
5th Did u Charge them????
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Äck, could you please mind your grammar.
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sorry I am in between classesand don't have too much time to 2x check
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i always play on medium difficulty, i mean i dont lose a lot of cataphracts maybe only 5 against 240 hellenic skirmishers, the ones with the hats and no armour, the problem is it takes freaking too long to kill them and yes i did charge, and by the time they're done with my cataphracts went from fresh to EXHAUSTED =(
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M, what else?
Yes, told them Romans to learn some Greek, put a little iron on that horse and use a longer lance; but, alas, no one is listening. So, Equites are all I have.2nd: Equites are not really good cavarly. Thier charge is OKish and the melee is not that great.
Yes, had to call them back to order again - I think that's why they are called rebells.3rd: WHAT skermisher were u fighitng???
Ah no, that are the archaic Leves, what I am around with; the people that rebell on my lands are allready a reform ahead and use the knife-piecing Velites.4th: Velites have spears, so they will give cavarly a hard time.
1st Charge them5th Did u Charge them????
2nd Change to sword and cut them
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