Create two different legion units - Split from the Spears thread

[AntiochusIII]

About Ze Incredible Romans: Ze Question I always keep on asking myself is:
how could anybody be a good swordsman (piercing/slashing/hacking/cleaving/cracking/whatever) with this HUGE heavy inconvenient shield in thy left hand?
not trolling, just curious

I'm faaaaar from an expert, but my guess is that the average Roman legionary isn't exactly doing swordplay when he fights. More like: stab, swing, slash, stab, block, etc.

Basileos ton Ellenon: I think your complaints would be much better supported by in-game evidence than multiple threads really. Play-testing + screenshots and replays are very useful when indicating these kinds of issues.

I myself haven't played the Romans in 1.0 yet but I'm seriously unconvinced that the Romans are anyway being treated unfairly in this mod. They always feel most complete to me: most buildings in the Huge City level, lots and lots of completely unique units, etc.

Really, when you think about it the oft-accused Hellenistic bias is really not there since the Greek factions just share one or two "template" with distinct traits, Celtic factions similarly, and Nomadic factions also. The more EB develops the more the distinctions are fleshed out, but at their most basic they're still relatively the same.

Only Rome, Carthage, the Germans (Sweboz, I know), and one or two other factions are more unique than others. And of all that Rome has the most detail of any. Another bloody legionary unit I'll never see taking the precious space and I'll be the one whining!

[Watchman]

About Ze Incredible Romans: Ze Question I always keep on asking myself is:
how could anybody be a good swordsman (piercing/slashing/hacking/cleaving/cracking/whatever) with this HUGE heavy inconvenient shield in thy left hand?
not trolling, just curious

Why couldn't they ? People carried big shields because those were darn useful for stonewalling the blows of the foe and stopping all kinds of unpleasant flying things. It's not like you're going to engage in any very fancy fencing in the confines of a heavy-infantry slugging match anyway.

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Why couldn't they ? People carried big shields because those were darn useful for stonewalling the blows of the foe and stopping all kinds of unpleasant flying things. It's not like you're going to engage in any very fancy fencing in the confines of a heavy-infantry slugging match anyway.

As i said before, Romans like to get very close and then they just stab-stab-stab, so yes they don't need to do any acrobatics.

Some movies however pass the "info" that Romans decapitate enemies with dual-wielding swords while doing backflips over them...

[Watchman]

That's "Hollywood For Fandumb" for ya, when everything has to be made 'rad awesome' and then some to cover up for the movie's other shortcomings...

[Cheexsta]

That's "Hollywood For Fandumb" for ya, when everything has to be made 'rad awesome' and then some to cover up for the movie's other shortcomings...

You mean 300 lied to me?!

[Watchman]

And with a straight face too. If you actually paid money to see it, I figure we could charge it with ripping you off as well...

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You mean 300 lied to me?!

i actually found it funny in 300 how Leonidas first told the humpy guy how important the phalanx was and all and then the spartans actually used it only once and the rest of the time they ran around with their swords and decapitated everybody

[Fearless Samnite]

i actually found it funny in 300 how Leonidas first told the humpy guy how important the phalanx was and all and then the spartans actually used it only once and the rest of the time they ran around with their swords and decapitated everybody

i remember that

but that would be the unarmored naked phalanx

sorta like a Gaesatae phalanx, guys running around decapitating opponents with their spears crazy like