Onin no Jidai

[TosaInu]

Top killer for each player in the 3v3 battle with 120 man unit size and no guns:

Tosa....HC...192

Samurai Archer performance:

Attackers
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Tosa....106, 115, 104, 144....Average = 117

That is correct. Details show that the lsam made more plain kills. The JHC could also make extra kills by chasing.

It doesn't appear to me that archers present much of a deterrent to rushing.

It doesn't seem so.

There may be an explanation for the differences. I had 4 Ni and used them as wall, therefore not really having to bother about them. I ordered the lsam to target monks (time to micromanage them more). Most expensive, most powerful infantry combat unit and least armour => most success.

[L'Impresario]

It doesn't appear to me that archers present much of a deterrent to rushing.

Without knowing what exactly happened there, I can guess that archers were shooting each other for quite some time (as most players picked 4 SA), and after melee started they could naturally continue providing missile support by targeting neglected units. This is an advantage compared to guns, who cannot perform this second function, but teppos can be more influential in the battle as a whole. They might score less kills but the morale penalties they inflict makes them a more reliable deterrent to rushing.

[Tomisama]

I had 4 Ni and used them as wall, therefore not really having to bother about them. I ordered the lsam to target monks (time to micromanage them more). Most expensive, most powerful infantry combat unit and least armour => most success.

I thought about putting out an armored unit front line, but was worried about friendly kills and loss of accuracy.

Maybe next time

[Puzz3D]

Unlike teppo, archers don't run as fast as no-dachi and monks. Besides, unless a ranged unit is directly targeted by the melee unit it doesn't retreat anyway.

[TosaInu]

I thought about putting out an armored unit front line, but was worried about friendly kills and loss of accuracy.

Maybe next time

I had the archers deployed in front of the Ni, the Ni were a tough second line.
Friendly kills are less of an issue compared to teppo as archers shoot in a higher arc.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

How A No Arrows Game. We use Guns, but no Archers or HA. How about that?

[Yoshitsune]

Slightly OT but has anyone else tried the Onin no Ran mod for Mount & Blade?

http://mbx.streetofeyes.com/index.php?board=42.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V0w_P8qJX4

Apart from anything there's plenty of historical research included in the mod that might be useful.