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    By way of contrast, the number one recipient of campaign dollars from military contractors is Hillary Clinton. I'm sorry, did I say dollars? I meant free speech.

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    Soldiers should be the only ones in the US to vote. And celebrities, but they should get two votes each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    Soldiers should be the only ones in the US to vote. And celebrities, but they should get two votes each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    Soldiers should be the only ones in the US to vote. And celebrities, but they should get two votes each.
    to quote one of my favourite movies

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    Robert Heinlein wasn't clever enough to come up with the celebrity clause, as our Prole did. I say she's improving on the book.

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    RASCZAK: No. Something given has no value! Haven't I taught you dimwits anything? I guess they ought to revoke my teaching credential... When you vote, you're exercising political authority. You're using force. And force, my friends, is violence, the supreme authority from which all other authority derives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Robert Heinlein wasn't clever enough to come up with the celebrity clause, as our Prole did. I say she's improving on the book.
    It just occured to me how American that is (or rather non-drafting).

    I mean for Swedish standards it's just to go back to pre-1995 levels of draft and get a female draft (and that would probably happen if the threat levels goes up to cold war standards) and you're basically there. Only difference is that it would be a citizen duty and not something that gives you citizenship.
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    That's a very nice idea Prole and Lemur but I think the army would have to run your whole economy then if everybody wants to have voting rights.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Proletariat
    Soldiers should be the only ones in the US to vote. And celebrities, but they should get two votes each.
    A tough one...define "celebrity".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec
    A tough one...define "celebrity".
    Persons of public interest. If you've never been in a newspaper you don't qualify because nobody really cares about you, that's how easy it is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    Persons of public interest. If you've never been in a newspaper you don't qualify because nobody really cares about you, that's how easy it is.
    Serial killers count according to Husar and Prole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER
    Serial killers count according to Husar and Prole.

    Surely serial killers are infamous, not celebrity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalos
    Surely serial killers are infamous, not celebrity?
    Read Husar's comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar
    Persons of public interest. If you've never been in a newspaper you don't qualify because nobody really cares about you, that's how easy it is.
    On the other hands, there are criminals like Crossloper already said, and there are people that get news coverage all the time but for reasons nobody can tell. I can't support a system that gives voting rights to people like Paris Hilton.

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    Blasphemy! Paris Hilton should have four votes. And her pocket chihuahua should have two.

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    Of course criminals would count, Yin&Yang or so, you need a balance between the side of light and the dark side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    Blasphemy! Paris Hilton should have four votes. And her pocket chihuahua should have two.
    I say, just appoint her empress and be done with it.
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