Oh Noes!! The french are taking over our country!!

[HoreTore]

It's time for some minister swapping here in Norway these days, and one of the new faces to come in, is claimed by our right-wingers to "have no loyalty" to Norway.

http://www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/2007/10/18/515456.html

You won't understand any of that though, so I'll explain:

Manuela Ramin-Osmundsen, the former head of the immigration office, is named as minister of the department of children and integration. The problem, though, is that she's a dirty frenchman, and we can't trust them, can we? At least not according to our good old conservatives... She's born in Martinique, lived in France until 1991 when she moved to Norway. So, she has lived here for 16 years, is married to the formed leader of the Young Conservatives and she has had very high administrative positions.

So, the question is, should I be worried now? Is Norway going to turn into New France or something?

Oh, and the best thing about this: The leader of the progress party(kinda like the republicans) said that he's worried that she will do things the exact opposite way of what his own party's policies are. Wow, I never would've expected that someone in a socialist government would do things differently from a conservative government!

[Dîn-Heru]

The leader of the progress party(kinda like the republicans) said that HE's worried that she will do things the exact opposite way of what his own party's policies are.

Well Siv Jensen might show many qualities normally associated with being male, but I would hardly call her one just because of that..

Actually on topic:
Stoltenberg probably won't let her stray too liberally if he saw that this would turn the people against him.. Ok, this might not have been that much on topic either. Frankly I don't care, she can't be much worse than many of those that were and are ministers, and it is not like it is a post where she can do much damage.. (Atleast she is Ap and not SV)

Oh and here is a link about the changes in english:http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle2055661.ece

[HoreTore]

Well Siv Jensen might show many qualities normally associated with being male, but I would hardly call her one just because of that..

Well, I was talking about Hagen, not her... But her title is a male title, so shouldn't we talk about her as a "he" when in this context?

Actually on topic:
Stoltenberg probably won't let her stray too liberally if he saw that this would turn the people against him.. Ok, this might not have been that much on topic either. Frankly I don't care, she can't be much worse than many of those that were and are ministers, and it is not like it is a post where she can do much damage.. (Atleast she is Ap and not SV)

Bah, around 60%+ voted for a liberal immigration policy. Besides, she isn't the minister for immigration anyway, so what's the issue?

Also, she's french, for heaven's sake... When did we ever fear hordes of frenchmen coming to our country to rape and pillage?

[lars573]

I'd comment but my current head of state is a Haitian immigrent.

[Viking]

The title of the article made me laugh.

[Dîn-Heru]

Ok, but Hagen is no longer the leader so you can see how I became confused, especially since it was FRP's spokesperson on immigration that is qouted in the article. The only reference to Hagen was that he made his usual comments that Norway is basically going down the drain in connection to the "scandal" she was involved in last year...

As for Siv Jensen being called a he because of her title.. No not really, it implies an insult that one should be respectful enough not to make, even if one disagrees with her opinions. (and yes I know you are joking, but I have decided to be a spoilsport, tonight.. )

Concerning the second part. Yes, like I said it is not a post where she can do much damage. What can she do, work to reverse 30-40 years of work for equality, make it even harder for immigrants to integrate..? In case this post did'nt make it clear, I actually agree with you that this is a non-issue that is being blown out of proportion by FRP as usual..

[Radier]

Frp is not "kinda like republicans" HoreTore. Thats a strange thing to say, if you mean the american republicans.

And I don't think that Frp guy is worried about her being french, but her having the "wrong" color actually.

[HoreTore]

Frp is not "kinda like republicans" HoreTore. Thats a strange thing to say, if you mean the american republicans.

Oh, but they are. At least the closest thing we get to them. In favour of a minimal state, buffed military, conservative christian morals, etc... And they're all cheering for Bush whatever he does. Ever seen them disagree with him on anything?

The only thing I can think of that sets them apart, is that frp are monarchists...

And I don't think that Frp guy is worried about her being french, but her having the "wrong" color actually.

Indeed. But I find it even funnier when the scary black woman is french, not Bin Laden's daughter...

@Din-Heru, yeah, I got that mixed up with his previous outrage about this traitorous french chick. Sorry 'bout that.

Oh, and Siv Jensen is male. Period.

[Fragony]

If she still has french nationality she shouldn't be in such a position. Can't serve two masters.

[Viking]

She has been a Norwegian citizen sice two weeks before she stepped into office.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Well I for one applaud the open Norwegian society for its enlightened open-mindedness.

So let me get this right: you bonk the leader of a Norwegian party, are thus granted Norwegian nationality, and two weeks later you get promoted to minister...
Well this should open a lot of career opportunities.

* goes off to seek a small northern country of his own to rule with an iron fist *

[HoreTore]

Well, Sweden already has a frenchman ruling them, and we're taken too, so I guess that just leaves Finland...

Vive le Roi!

[Louis VI the Fat]

Well, Sweden already has a frenchman ruling them, and we're taken too, so I guess that just leaves Finland...

Finland? Lakes, mosquitoes, reindeer and Fins so drunk that they run around naked all day long hopping from icy lakes to saunas and back again.

No thanks. My mind is made up. Norway it will be.

[Brenus]

Also, she's french, for heaven's sake... When did we ever fear hordes of frenchmen coming to our country to rape and pillage?
You should as a retaliation because remember the Wiking? Ok. It was long time ago but you never apologise for it…

If she still has french nationality she shouldn't be in such a position. Can't serve two masters. Two democracies involved her, so no masters… And I don’t thing she’s got an official position in France…

“Well, Sweden already has a frenchman ruling them”: Marshal Bernadotte’s heritage (the genetic one) is probably very weak now, so the Royalties in Sweden are hardly French. Even if it still make me laughing when I thing about his “lavandiere” (woman washing clothes) mother and his tattoo “Death to Tyrants”…

[HoreTore]

If she still has french nationality she shouldn't be in such a position. Can't serve two masters. Two democracies involved her, so no masters… And I don’t thing she’s got an official position in France…

She has not, but she has had a lot of important positions in Norway in the last 15 years. So I really understand what the problem is...

Oh, and she isn't the first immigrant to become minister, but she is the first black immigrant. It looks like things are fine as long as people are white.

I hate my countrymen.

[Myrddraal]

Oh, and she isn't the first immigrant to become minister, but she is the first black immigrant. It looks like things are fine as long as people are white.

I hate my countrymen.

Oh the irony, that must have been intentional

[HoreTore]

Oh the irony, that must have been intentional

Bah, I should've been borne French, not Norwegian.

[Moros]

French taking over my country?
Big news.