Proto-Germanic - help me please!

[Landwalker]

I would spell them Swe-bos (the "e" like in "end"). The modern name of those people is "Schwaben" (the "a" like the u in "nut"). That might point to a different way of spelling the "e" in Ancient times. But the Romans called them Suebi. So, the "end - e" pronaunication seems to be correct.

Hmm, that might be the case. I don't know much about German, so I'm not sure how to approach most of those words. The circumflex over the "e" made me wonder if it was pronounced the same way as classical etas ("ey", or the modern English long-a), but really, I have no idea--which is why a pronunciation guide would be so handy. ~;-)

Cheers.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Si non e vero, ben e trovato?

[cmacq]

It can be prononce Swa'-Bows, in english they're the historic Swabians

[blitzkrieg80]

concerning Proto-Germanic pronunciation: long vowels have been marked for a reason, sorry if my attitude is bad on this, but why else would there be long vowels, although character names and map names remain unaltered because of time constraints and game mechanic reasons.

I don't have lots of time to go into the many disputed elements of Proto-Germanic, suffice to say that there are many letters such as pointed out in 'd'/'th' that academics will debate into the future, since so much MUST be reconstructed to exist at all...

in-game standardization-wise, [x] is represented by 'h' whether or not it is much more complex ('ch' in German) in sound with many derivatives, similarly [þ] is represented by 'th', and [đ] is represented by 'd'... and there are some problems with this, such as with the name Wōđanaz which definitely changes to a 'th' rather than 'd' sound in Old Norse Óðinn... but oh well, it took quite a while to do what has been done, so I'm not worried about it.

in the future, fans can expect a pronunciation guide in the unit descriptions as well as a published guide accompanying the voice mod itself, but
it makes no sense for me to spend time on this atm, when the voice mod itself needs development, but i will try to help when possible.

for general reference, pronunciation of vowels in terms of Received Standard English:

a as the first vowel of 'aha'
ā as the second vowel in 'aha'
e as in 'bet'
ē approx. as in 'hate', but a pure vowel
i as in 'tin'
ī as in 'seen'
o as in 'cough'
ō approx. as in 'so', but a pure vowel
u as in 'pull' [not 'hut']
ū as in 'cool'

like Germanic language in general, all consonants must be pronounced.

I’ll try to add more when I have time. (I would like to discuss this stuff, like i said, i just don't have time currently... eventually i'd like to speak on [x] and [þ], because it's really interesting... Wikipedia can inform you for now although I by no means claim it to be entirely accurate.)

Swēƀōz = (something like) Suay-bohz

[mlc82]

I'm with the guy at the top of thread here, also wondering how in the world you pronounce "Casse".

[Landwalker]

Thanks for the quick-guide, blitzkrieg. Much appreciated!

Cheers.

[blitzkrieg80]

np... i forgot to add:

đruxtiz would probably have more of a 'ch' sound since it probably comes from the verb đreuǥanan "to campaign" originally, from which the new mercenary term is also derived: đruǥulaz: a brilliant idea by Swabian where in Germanic- verb + [vowel] + 'l' = 'adjective tending to perform the action of the verb', such as flugulaz 'swift', 'apt to fly'

tō is a post-position (prepositions were used commonly in Proto-Germanic in the post position), literally "to" in Modern English and the word from which it has descended from, but it can also mean 'for', 'into' and 'as a', such as in Temran ƀrewwanđe tō "Building for Brewing" (Temran 'Timber', since house is actually an Indo-Iranian loanword and 'home' doesn't equate with building exactly, even way back when)


I wonder how Casse is pronounced also