Oh God, spare me from college.

[Ice]

And then drop out due to said drunken shenanigans, be unable to find any work that you find meaningful or well paid, be lumbered with a child that you mistakenly sired during said drunken shenanigans, feel like an underachiever your whole life, drink too much to compensate for feelings of underachieving, be unable to hold even a meaningless job due to dunkeness, live off the welfare state because you can't hold a job, marry a monster you can't bear to even look at just beacause it halves the gas bill and end up gassing yourself in a car you stole (because obviously you can't afford your own car).

Cunning plan SFTS.

Slug FTW

[Slug For A Butt]

Ice GASOH (I know I just made that up... Get A Sense Of Humour, it was tongue in cheek )

[Ice]

Ice GASOH (I know I just made that up... Get A Sense Of Humour, it was tongue in cheek )

On the contrary, I thought it was hilarious.

[Strike For The South]

You severly underestimate my silver tounge.

[AntiochusIII]

GeneralHandkerchief: I'll tell you straight up: it's all just senioritis.

Tell people to shut up, tell them you don't know what you're going to do five years from now -- much less ten years, or the rest of your life. Tell them that's a very good thing, since it means you're not wasting your life on some well-worn, overused path. Tell them you want to do it your way and then just take it slow and easy. Those pamphlets are pretty, there are a lot of them, but in the end you won't really make your decision on them anyway.

You won't truly "find yourself" under the pressured environment of a college-going high school senior. Ever. Not unless you already figured it out long before this year. Don't even try.* Just find a relatively cheap good well-rounded college near you and get in.

*except those special cases involving Winthrop Horace Stanton III and his Ivy League alumni daddy

Honestly, a high school class compare to college is like a whole different level. The latter is far quicker, far more diverse, far more...useful. It can even be fun if you get lucky with a good lecturer at hand. It's a rather different experience compare to high school, so it isn't really yet another extension that you're thinking it is.

Me, I'm a Freshman proudly taking Husar's path. I take it easy. I got admitted to much better universities than where I am now (MSU, UW, etc. Quite amusingly, just about every one of them I submitted my applications -- and wrote my essays -- near the very last minute. They were avant-garde. ), but since I couldn't pay for those I just stay where I am for the time being. May be next year I'll move, may be the year after. Who knows? I screwed up my senior year (a grand total of 0 scholarships attempted Not to boast, but I think I could've gotten a whole bunch of them if I tried. That's what pressure does to your motivation, see? :P) and even then I still don't regret it, because what I do is most definitely my choice.

On the whole statistics thing. Well, to put it simply, on average they're absolutely correct. A college graduate is in a much better position compare to a high school graduate. The latter path is, in my opinion, best taken if you already know what you love with all the earnestness in your heart; not a very common thing I believe.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Unfortunately, most white collar jobs that pay decent money require a college education. You are kind of stuck there.

My Dad used to make into the 80,000+ a year before he lostt his job. Thing is, he has 3 colleges degrees, and been working over 30-35 years and can't find a good paying job. Today's It's Age over Education half of the time.

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Most other people, parents included, go the "If you want to be somebody in this world, you have to go to college" route, which I hate but realize deep down that it's somewhat true.


Total and utter lies. My father didn't finish college and makes more than 95% of Americans do, the vast majority who have college degrees. Granted, he had to work very hard, but it is possible.

His boss didn't even graduate high school. He received his GED and today is pulling in millions per year.

Getting a college degree opens some doors, but it isn't impossible to succeed without one.[/QUOTE

Your Boss is one of the Lucky Ones. Yea, you can make alot with only comnig out of High School, but it would take you a hell of awhile, like it been already said.

[TinCow]

I believe that college is very important, simply because there's far more to learn about life than you can accumulate by the end of High School/Secondary School. Sure, college can provide a good deal of concrete information, but what I truly learned in my 4 years was simply how to learn. I went to a good high school and considered myself very educated for my age when I graduated, but I didn't truly understand how to absorb information, weigh it, and assimilate it into my life. College taught me that, as much through continued exposure to a broad social spectrum as through actual class time.

When I entered college, I was still little more than an educated child. When I graduated college, I was a full-fledged adult. Some of that was certainly just life experiences that I would have accumulated anyway, but it is far easier to do that in a protected environment geared specifically to your age group and challenges.

On top of that, it truly DOES make a major difference on your resume. Yes, you can still succeed and be prosperous without a college degree, but, at least in the United States, it is much, much harder. On average, college graduates earn significantly more than high school graduates. Google will validate this easily, many, many times over if you spend a few minutes looking. I suppose that if your dream job is not something that requires a college education, then that decreases its necessity, but I suspect there are few people gunning for those spots.

All in all, I think there is little to debate about the value of a college education. Do it, it's worth it. Period. Plus, you'll probably have a ton of fun, I know I did.

The real balancing act comes when deciding whether or not to pursue a graduate degree. I know plenty of people (including other lawyers) who have spent many years and racked up obscene levels of debt to get a degree that gave them little to no advantage in the world. I see it like this:

1) Go to college.
2) Go to graduate school if you KNOW what you want to do with your life and a graduate degree is NECESSARY for you to be able to do it.

[Vuk]

[QUOTE={BHC}KingWarman888]My Dad used to make into the 80,000+ a year before he lostt his job. Thing is, he has 3 colleges degrees, and been working over 30-35 years and can't find a good paying job. Today's It's Age over Education half of the time.

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Most other people, parents included, go the "If you want to be somebody in this world, you have to go to college" route, which I hate but realize deep down that it's somewhat true.


Total and utter lies. My father didn't finish college and makes more than 95% of Americans do, the vast majority who have college degrees. Granted, he had to work very hard, but it is possible.

His boss didn't even graduate high school. He received his GED and today is pulling in millions per year.

Getting a college degree opens some doors, but it isn't impossible to succeed without one.[/QUOTE

Your Boss is one of the Lucky Ones. Yea, you can make alot with only comnig out of High School, but it would take you a hell of awhile, like it been already said.

That was then, not now. Nowadays, getting to a position like that is nearly impossible unless you know the right people. The few good jobs that don't require a college education are given to the employer's friends and their children.
You would regret not going to college. I would recomend it.

[Slug For A Butt]

On the contrary, I thought it was hilarious.

Then my apologies.