The Taxshashilan satrapy-a mod request

**Malik of Sindh** · 10-22-2007, 04:23

Originally Posted by Admetos

Yeah, I suggested Alex because I don't really think RTR compares to EB so I've never really played it much, but thats not to say it dosen't improve on vanilla, becasue it does vastly. But I'm going off-topic, I guess we could have a root around and find some cool Indian units anywhere, but I'll have a look at RTR some time.

EDIT: Yes I do have X-Fire - megasadmetos.

Also I have Alex, re-installing it now actually, so no worries there.

Yes,I think ill download RTR soon too,to review what they done in theyr mod about indians.

**Admetos** · 10-22-2007, 04:36

Malik, here's a link to the Indian Mod.

**Malik of Sindh** · 10-22-2007, 04:40

I really like Elephants as bodyguards for generals,but we'll need too fix elephant hitpoints,as theyre only 2 now.I think we need to make indian levy archer and spearmen exetremely cheap for Indians so they can spam them,like they historicaly did(im pretty sure).Also,I think the names will be a problem since I know nothing of them.I already sent a pm to kukulza bout that,I hope he'll help us.

**KuKulzA** · 10-22-2007, 04:56

RTR Mauryan Empire:
It seems to me they over-did the elephants but that might be just me... and the chariots aren't exactly right, but it looks good overall...
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I'd say that the Indian faction should have these qualities:

very effective administration in terms of keeping the peace
ability to spam huge armies compared to Western counterparts
focus on strong elephant, heavy chariots, archery, and professional soldiers, with weak infantry and cavalry

time periods/reforms being...

Expansion of Asoka
Spread of Buddhism - 261?
Death of Asoka - 232
Collapse of Mauryan Empire - 184

And to be historically accurate this faction would control Taksashila, Opiana, and Patala. The faction shouldn't be called Mauryan Empire since its only a fraction of it, a northwestern border... but perhaps it can be called a Prakrit name for the region?

if there's to be an Indian faction mod to be made, I want it to be up to EB standards or I doubt I'd play it. If done right, this could be very good...

EDIT:
as for the general bodyguard... there's pictures of noble-looking leaders as archers, as horsemen, as fierce infantry, and on elephants... and probably on chariots too... now what should we go with?
I'd say archer or elephant... but i think it'll probably end up being elephant...
but if there's enough evidence for Mauryan general liking to be guarded by elite archer groups, that would make for an interesting general bodyguard....

**Admetos** · 10-22-2007, 05:00

Of course it will be up to EB standards, we might need a little help as it's a lot of work for two people, but we'll definetly get there.

**Malik of Sindh** · 10-22-2007, 05:02

Im thinking of making only a satrapy of Mauryan empire,so it will only hold the Taxshashila region.By the way,you seem to know alot bout Mauryans.Can you help us with names?

**Admetos** · 10-22-2007, 05:04

What other alternatives are there for an Indian faction though, as the Mauryan empire goes a long way off the map?

**Spoofa** · 10-22-2007, 05:09

none? The Mauryan's pretty much controlled India until their collapse.

**KuKulzA** · 10-22-2007, 05:25

I don't know much about the Mauryans... and all the Indians i am friends with aren't much into history...
but if someone can find a person who speaks or knows a lot about Prakrit... that could be a start...

and finding out the name (in Asoka's language) of the land we're in would be helpful, that could be the name of the faction...

just a thought, I can see a strong steppe faction and a strong Successor faction being tough for Indians... considering steppe horse archers and super phalangites are two things that can counter the Indians' anti-masses (chariots, elephants, archers, pro troops) and masses (infantry).....
though of course a clever Indian general could use infantry to engage phalanxes and use chariots/elephants/heavy-troops to flank them... and use elephants and archers to deter horse-archers...

this could be good... I'll try to help, but like I said before, I don't know too much and I am trying to learn more as we speak...

EDIT:
the Pali language can be said to be Prakrit... and it was the language of the Buddha... and Asoka DID go Buddhist... perhaps we should look into Pali? there's a revival of Pali studies... and while Indian and SE Asian sources might not be too helpful to us... there's some Pali translation group in the UK we could look for if we need 'authentic' names and such...
but i wonder what language is used in EB right now... what is the Indian language for the troops and buildings' names?