Quote Originally Posted by Grog
Ah but you forget Kobal, there is always a place for style over efficiency!

Seriously though, I usually found a place for voulgiers in my french late armies after they proved themselves against the mongols. Sure I always keep some chivalric cav, lots of DFK and some DNK, and the rest arbusquiers/scots guard, but the voulgiers in spearwall set in front of Trebs/cannon on a hill were always useful for me. I certainly found them more durable than the french late city pikes at any rate.

Also, I have had Voulgiers stand up to an elephant charge long enough for my DNK's to flank charge in, although my general was close behind the spearwall.
True, but then again, voulgiers aren't that stylish to begin with. Now, Pikemen, they have feathered berets and puffy pants and stuff. Always a plus in Jean-Paul Gaultier's army. Plus they do the "hold and stay alive until cav can charge their backs" thing better than voulgiers too (well, they do when you micro them or at least turn guard mode and spearwall off after the enemy charge is over), so... not much of a dilemma.