Voulgiers, Guard Mode and Spearwall - how to use it?

[Rhedd]

Hopefully, though, walking with one wouldn't give you too much trouble. ^_^

Funny thing is, in the game they run fine. It's walking they have the problem with.

[WhiskeyGhost]

Hopefully, though, walking with one wouldn't give you too much trouble. ^_^

Funny thing is, in the game they run fine. It's walking they have the problem with.

yeah, but you gotta realize, if your carrying something large and bulky over a long distance, your gonna need to pace yourself properly, otherwise your useless if you were marching too fast or too far while overloaded. You could walk fast, sure, but you'd tire out before reaching your destination (in the same way running does, only it would take longer). The problem with the game mechanics is theres only a walk/run option, and not a forced march kind of option where they slowly lose stamina but don't move like snails

[Rhedd]

I'm starting to feel argumentative, but I suppose this "pacing yourself" thing doesn't apply to men in mail hauberks, carrying kite shields and six feet of spear, or men in full plate marching along with two-handed swords over their shoulders?

How about soldiers carrying those very billhooks you mentioned? They walk at a perfectly average speed.

Any way you look at it, singling out halberdiers and voulgiers as exceptionally slow-moving units is devoid of logic.

[WhiskeyGhost]

I'm starting to feel argumentative, but I suppose this "pacing yourself" thing doesn't apply to men in mail hauberks, carrying kite shields and six feet of spear, or men in full plate marching along with two-handed swords over their shoulders?

How about soldiers carrying those very billhooks you mentioned? They walk at a perfectly average speed.

Any way you look at it, singling out halberdiers and voulgiers as exceptionally slow-moving units is devoid of logic.

duly noted, and i concur with that assessment. I suppose it was lowered so it makes it harder for you to place spearwalls quickly within a changing battlefield. I could just imagine having a spearwall unit moving to my exposed flank quickly to put up a wall just in time to prevent an enemy charge for decimating my front lines

[Rhedd]

Yep.

Don't mind me. I'm just complaining because it's one of the few things I can't mod to my liking. ^_^

[Czar Alexsandr]

Bonjour Mon Amis!

I've ran quite a few tests on the Voulgier and found it to work like others had said. Like Kobal I observed that the Voulgeir's suffered high initial losses but ended up winning in the end. When in spearwall formation that is. I assume the fact is when you stand shoulder to shoulder with a fellow man in armour weilding a fearsome and stylish Voulge you can defeat a much more expensive and dangerous foe. (Eg. DFK etc.) I'd say they're much better against infantry then Armoured Sergeants but cavalry is another issue. For the line of battle though, the Voulgier is a excelent soldier. For anti-armour and higher attack the French Dismounted Noble Knights will be better but in my experience get killed quicker. Les Voulgier's are much more durable, very resilient fellows. I assume if you have swords, voulge, spear, Adventieurs or Scot's guard, and the famous French cavalry though you'd need fear no army. Vie le France.

[Meldarion]

Before the latest patch these guys were not to be under-estimated. Afterwards is a different story, I haven't found them to be highly successful and they are lacking in versatility.

[Ciaran]

duly noted, and i concur with that assessment. I suppose it was lowered so it makes it harder for you to place spearwalls quickly within a changing battlefield. I could just imagine having a spearwall unit moving to my exposed flank quickly to put up a wall just in time to prevent an enemy charge for decimating my front lines

Well, you can do that. Just use pikes, as mentioned, they walk at normal pace.

But I agree it does not make sense.