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    Default Re: Sard-Nuragic Units a "no show"?

    Lack of time to model them already?

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    Great to know they will be modeled!!!!!! Perhaps with the Celtiberian soldier and with what else?!
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    Default Re: Sard-Nuragic Units a "no show"?

    That is for you to guess...

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    It's not the easiest to gather info about nuragic units during the game timeframe, there are bronze statues and reliefs about the shardana but most of them are pre 8th century BCE, when the nuragic civilization was at its best.

    It appears that the bulk of them was the "Sardi Pelliti", basically guys dressed in hides and lighly armed while the nobility adopted many carthaginian customs.
    Tribes in the east were also influenced by the iberians, especially the balearics.





    http://www.colonnedercole.it/isola/isola2_11.htm (mostly older than the game timeframe)
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    Well I don't want to give anything away about rtr7 but... I would have thought a reconstruction based on the simpler, less elaborately armoured, Nuragic warriors depicted in the bronze figurines, mostly produced during the Nuragic Phase II and III, would be pretty safe, and consistent with Livy's "Sardi Pelliti" (Livy, 23.40).

    These "Goatskins" were presumably the Balari and Illesi tribal groups that inhabited the so-called “Barbagia”, that is, the forested mountains of eastern Sardinia, and the Corsi who had been driven into the mountain districts of the Gallura, in the northern extremities of the island.

    Tribes in the east were also influenced by the iberians, especially the balearics.
    There may be some logic to that, but no evidence as far as I am aware. For instance, Sards seems to prefer the short bow, whereas the Balearics were obviously slingers, and while there are similarities between the Nuragic, the Torre and the Tayalot cultures, there are important differences too.

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    I never said they were all influenced by balearics, I mentioned the eastern tribes.
    Also, I agree with you that nuragics preferred the short bow.
    Usually they were armed with bow/spear or axe.
    Swords were used but mostly by nobility, cavalry was not exactly available to them even though there are depiction of even horse archers
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    ... I agree with you that nuragics preferred the short bow.
    Usually they were armed with bow/spear or axe. Swords were used but mostly by nobility, cavalry was not exactly available to them even though there are depiction of even horse archers
    Well, if we rely on the bronze statuettes, and perhaps too the statues of monte prama (c. 700 BC), I think that the sword and bow is attested; nobility are depicted with elaborate armour, long-horned helmets and long swords, whereas "common" warriors have short, dictinctively wide two-edged swords and bows. Some are depicted with staves, daggers, and distinctive long, heavy clubs. I have not seen any evidence of the axe.

    I do not believe that there is any persuasive evidence of cavalry or horse archers. There is the lone bronze statuette of an archer standing on a horse (not seated!) - the "arciere del Sulcis a cavallo" at the Museo Archeologico, Cagliari. But this is held to demonstrate acrobatics and competition, rather than cavalry warcraft.

    I recommend the following sources;

    Barbro Santillo Frizell (ed.), Arte Militare e Architettura Nuragica, Nuragic Architecture in its Military, Territorial and Socio-Economic Context, Proceedings of the First International Colloqium on Nuragic Architecture at the Swedish Institute in Rome, 7-9 December, 1989 (esp. Peter F Stary, Arms and Armour of the Nuragic Statues);

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    Angela Demontis, Il Popolo di Bronzo, Abiti, Armi e Attrezzature dei Bronzetti Sardi in 100 Schede Illustrate, Condaghes, Cagliari, 2005

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