My reich for a multiculture

[Fragony]

Looks like the multicultists are radicalising in germany as well. The most brilliant idea, why don't we tag along imam's when the police is on patrol, after all the muslims youth terrorising the locals don't recognise the police as an authority and who in their right mind would, has to be said, they got a point. But doesn't the government lose the authority to rule when it no longer can make guarenty the safety of those that pay them to do so, they can still prevent us from using self-defence after, and are generaly much more firm when it happens, like a girlfriend you dumped they can become pretty vicious. This is so wrong, police looking for the help of imams to try to govern, well, who's area exactly? Not saying that the imam's aren't trying to do their thing, it is just so incredibly rediculous that the ones that are supposed to protect are asking for protection. Not apeasement but a apleasement, makes me sick. A state witout the monoply on the use of violence ceases to exist as a real state.

GAH2Germany

[Mikeus Caesar]

I wonder how long it will take before Godwin's law comes into effect in this particular topic?

[Husar]

I wonder what exactly Frag is talking about, I have yet to see policemen with an Imam tagging along.

That said, we do have a green party here, but most countries have one, no?

[Haudegen]

This is the story right?

http://www.westfaelische-rundschau.d...=WR&dbserver=1

Sorry, couldn´t find an English article.


To clarify this a bit: The purpose of the imams is to strenghten the moral authority of the police. I think it´s an attempt to teach young muslims that obeying the law is their religious duty.

If it works, fine ...

But you are mistaken if you assume that ...

- the policemen did this because they fear for their lifes (more than usual)

- the imams are given any powers of a policeman

- the police stopped prosecuting crimes committed by muslims

[Fragony]

This is the story right?

http://www.westfaelische-rundschau.d...=WR&dbserver=1

Sorry, couldn´t find an English article.


To clarify this a bit: The purpose of the imams is to strenghten the moral authority of the police.

Yeah that is the problem, they shouldn't need to, and they sure as hell shoudn't be it because that way we could as well privatise protection. Goverment has no claim to authority if their most primal reasons to exist are handled by third party's who can have other interests, it legitimity ceases to be.

[Boyar Son]

whats godwins law?

and besides, what with a number of muslims being extremists
(large ## ?, i guess according to europeans fearing them like nukes)
if you piss them off they're gonna suicide bomb you!!

[Ice]

whats godwins law?

and besides, what with a number of muslims being extremists
(large ## ?, i guess according to europeans fearing them like nukes)
if you piss them off they're gonna suicide bomb you!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. ”

—Mike Godwin <godwin@eff.org>

[Fragony]

Why would they attack us they aren't nuts, screw terrorism they don't need it they have multicultists. Just a mild threat to a days comfort is enough to get an audiance with the pope. The multiculture has to work most of all no matter what, truly pious they are.

[Rodion Romanovich]

I wonder how long it will take before Godwin's law comes into effect in this particular topic?

Didn't the very first post already make such a comparison?

[Tribesman]

No, it implicates that they are a higher authority then the police.

How ?
If they were a higher authority than the police then the police would be joining Iman patrols , the police would be following iman orders and the imans laws ... as the case is the opposite of that then the implication is the opposite of what you claim it to be .

[Fragony]

*sigh* they are a higher authority because they don't listen to the police unless the imam tells them to do so. So, the islam comes first for them, the laws of the country second, quite unlike how we, well some of us, like to see it.

[Tribesman]

*sigh* they are a higher authority because they don't listen to the police unless the imam tells them to do so. So, the islam comes first for them, the laws of the country second, quite unlike how we, well some of us, like to see it

Ah so the Iman is there with the police to explain local laws and Islamic laws to the truculent youths who don't understand either the local laws or Islamic laws .
Hmmmmm .....and you are against this ?

[Husar]

I see your point now Fragony and have to say it's valid.

But it also won't happen, I don't know why, I never understood it either, but policemen have a tendency to avoid certain problematic areas, it's the same in almost every country. Instead of going there and beating the out of certain criminal kids, they rather hide.
This is an attempt to get the policemen back into such areas without using force, maybe my initial reaction comes from the fact that I have almost given up hope that policemen will ever walk into such areas not fearing a bunch of teenagers.

They can gather a lot of men to protect a neonazi march but they cannot get enough men to make some teenage gangs obey the law. Whenever I hear about that I feel like we don't have a nanny state but a sissy state, or maybe a combination of both.

Another thing comes to mind though and that's how Europe developed in that respect, we started out with priests telling the people to obey their landlord because God wants it and ended up as whatever we are now(seperation of state and church, thought five minutes but the word escapes me).

Also note that as I said before, clubbing them will only make them hate the police more.