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    Asia ton Barbaron is a min imod for EB, Featuring a map from Greece to Bengal.It will need Barbarian Invasion. This mod will include at least 50 more regions in Asia(We will try to fill all the 199), and lot of new factions. The team is growing fast and working on the mod.
    This is the map:

    The map will be updated when map_regions is finished. We will include a bit more of the east than this map shows.
    FACTION LIST
    1. Kingdom of Macedon(Dark purple)
    2. Kingdom of Pontus(Lighter purple)
    3. Seleucid Empire(Silver)
    4. Ptolemaic Empire(Yellow)
    5. Satrapy of Bactria(Blue)
    6. Kingdom of Atropatene(Dark Red)
    7. Hayasdan(Darkest Green)
    8. Parthia(Hording possible)(Pink)
    9. Saba(Dark orange)
    10. Mauryan Empire(Tea green)
    11. Pandya(Dark yellow)
    12. Wusun Empire(Black)
    13. Attalid Kingdom of Pergamon(Sky Blue)
    14. Kingdom of cimmerian Bosphoran(Turquoise)
    15. Nabateia(light brown)
    16. Saka(Red)
    17. Romans(emergent 220-160 BC)
    18. Yuehzi(Jade)
    19. Kingdom of Cyrene(White)
    20. Satavahana


    The team currently needs:
    Modelers

    List of team members:
    Malik of Sindh(Scripter, mod founder)MSN:Malikofsindh@hotmail.com
    Admetos(All kinds of things,currentily 2d art)MSN:Adam-01@hotmail.co.uk
    TWFanatic(EDU editer)
    Athkara(Yuehzi and Wusun researcher/historian)MSN:dsinger@uci.edu
    Gamegeeek2(Coder)
    svramj(Skinner/modeler for Indian factions, translator to Indian language)MSN:svramj@hotmail.com
    Hax(coder) flip_da_flop@hotmail.com
    Aneliuos Phyros(sp?)(skinner)
    overweightninja(coder) overweightninja@hotmail.com


    Every member should pm me with their msn adress. I you don't have msn DOWNLOAD IT NOW!

    PREVIEWS
    1st Indian unit preview
    2nd Indian unit preview
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malik of Sindh
    EB:The East
    EB:TE is a mod for EB,Featuring a map from Greece to Bengal.Currentily me,Admetos and Pharnakes are creating a this mod,but were looking for more people.This mod will include atleast 2x regions in Asia,a few new factions(99% chance:Galatians.100% chance :Mauryan Empire.50% chance:Cyrene)
    We are all open to suggestions.This mod will also feature shadow rebel factions(the mod will need BI most probably...)for Ptolemies and Seleucids.Emergent factions:Yuehzi,Romans.Start date: 280 BC.Please post your ideas.



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    shouldn't it maybe be called Asiatica Barbarorum(or something similar)? since it doesn't really center on Europe anymore?

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    Thats exactly what I said to Malik earlier.


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    sounds very interesting, yet very hard to accomplish. i like the map. maybe an ethiopian factions? bosphorous would be cool too. and make sure the romans come because without them emerging history would be completely wrong.

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    We are discusing the factions right now.We have decided these :Bosphorus,A new KH system,Mauryans, we decided not to include Galatians,we will include Kyrene too.

    I won't tell you anything about the KH system,lets make it a surprise

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Thanks for the support iwwtf_az, we are disscussing factions as we speak.

    EDIT: You got there first Malik, I'm getting Bartix after you again.


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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Change of plan guys, the Galatians are being included.


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    Factions

    1. Makedonia WG
    2. Atropatene E
    3. Koinon Hellenon WG
    4. KH shadow faction WG
    5. Kyrenaica WG
    6. Pergamon WG
    7.Pontus E
    8. Hai E
    9. Ptolomaioi EG
    10. Selukidai EG
    11. Pahalava E
    12. Boshphorian kingdom WG
    13. Baktria EG
    14. Saka S
    15. Mayuran empire I
    16. Indo greeks EG
    17. Galatians B
    18. Saba E
    19. Romans (ermergent 220-170bc) WG
    20. Yeuhzi (emergent whenever) S

    WG: western greek
    EG: eastern greek
    E: eastern
    S: Steppe
    I: Indian
    B: Barbarian
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    What are your opinions/suggestions on this then guys? We'd love to hear some feedback!


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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinusCDXX
    shouldn't it maybe be called Asiatica Barbarorum(or something similar)? since it doesn't really center on Europe anymore?
    And not on Rome, so no Latin names!
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    We are having an arguement.Should we include Indo-Greeks as an emergent faction(my idea)or include two Baktrian nations in the start,and the indo-greek one gets reforms and new units(Pharnakes idea)What do you think?We will go with the idea which gets more votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
    And not on Rome, so no Latin names!
    Yes, we need to have the greek name for it.


    Yay! no romans!
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    You could consider an Atropatene faction, just for the sake of messing; It was an independent kingdom at the time and would resemble the residue of previous Achaemenid military machine.


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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Ah, okay. I see what you guys mean. Admetos' PM wasn't as descriptive as I thought.

    Anyway, seems interesting and good luck with it. For a 280 start date, using Baktria as a faction is kind of iffy, but that is up to you guys.

    If you want a name thought, I think you could use Asia ton Barbaron. If I understand what little Greek I know, that should translate to Asia of the Barbarians.

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharnakes
    Factions

    1. Makedonia WG
    2. Epiros WG
    3. Koinon Hellenon WG
    4. KH shadow faction WG
    5. Kyrenia WG
    6. Pergamon WG
    7.Pontus E
    8. Hai E
    9. Ptolomaioi EG
    10. Selukidai EG
    11. Pahalava E
    12. Boshphorian kingdom WG
    13. Baktria EG
    14. Saka S
    15. Mayuran empire I
    16. Indo greeks EG
    17. Galatians B
    18. Saba E
    19. Romans (ermergent 220-170bc) WG
    20. Yeuhzi (emergent whenever) S

    WG: western greek
    EG: eastern greek
    E: eastern
    S: Steppe
    I: Indian
    B: Barbarian
    BTW, there are a lot of factions you could use. Remember that when Ptolemaios Keraunos killed Seleukos, practically all of Asia Minor broke away so factions like the Bithynians are possible with a scripted event involving the Galatians.

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    Could you give us some more details please TPC?

    Also could either of you suggest a faction to come between the Selukidai and the Mayurans, which is another pos. we are considering.
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    If you could have the Baktrians emerge in 240ish and then have the indo hellenics emerge in ~180 IIRC.

    That would be pretty sweet.
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Pharnakes wants to make both of IG factions playable.I agree with making baktria playable,but not with Indo greeks

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    I am definently excited about this! Just please don't let it die out like the EB late period mod... I wish I could help you guys out but I have absolutely zero modding talent so all I can give you is my support and this nice green balloon: .

    When is the start date?

    You could consider an Atropatene faction, just for the sake of messing; It was an independent kingdom at the time and would resemble the residue of previous Achaemenid military machine.
    A very good idea, if your faction list isn't final, of course.

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Thanks for baloons,my last one was shot by admetos.Start date is 268 bc.Maryan empire will be a very important faction in the game,and will recive its own culture.

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    The atropatene are in.Check factions post

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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Originally Posted by CaesarAugustus
    Just please don't let it die out like the EB late period mod
    I don't think it did die. They've previewed two late faction icons and in the run-up to 1.0, bovi said the late project was late, so there's still hope, I'm looking forwrd to it too!


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    I really hope you can pull this one off!
    Good luck :)
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    Thanks

    And no, the late period din't die, rather it seems to have been absorbed into the offical eb team.
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    wow, big task, but best of luck.

    i'd say use just 1 baktrian faction, and have the indo-greek faction either:
    a) rebel as a shadow faction to the baktrian faction
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    b) emerge if the baktrians conquer a part of india and then lose it to rebellion, or at a certain date.
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    I'd say have the Indo Hellenic faction arrive when they did historically if Baktria fights Maurya, if such a thing is possible.

    When the player controls Baktria, I don't know how that would work. Perhaps it could still happen, and the Baktrian player would have to deal with it or just let them carve out a kingdom in India.

    For some reason....red or gold comes to mind for Indo Hellenic colors....I really have no idea why.

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    I concur, bootsiuv.

    @Paulus, Hmm, surely the same ends could be achieved by hving one Baktrian faction become indo greek once they conquer the required provs, also breaking whatever diplomatic ties they had had with northern Baktria. I'm sorry but I just really want to play the indo greeks...
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by paullus
    b) emerge if the baktrians conquer a part of india and then lose it to rebellion, or at a certain date.
    I like this,one don't know what pharnakes thinks thought.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bootsiuv
    I'd say have the Indo Hellenic faction arrive when they did historically if Baktria fights Maurya, if such a thing is possible.

    When the player controls Baktria, I don't know how that would work. Perhaps it could still happen, and the Baktrian player would have to deal with it or just let them carve out a kingdom in India.

    For some reason....red or gold comes to mind for Indo Hellenic colors....I really have no idea why.

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    This seems interesting. I'll play it when it comes out.....
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    Default Re: Europa Barbarorum:The East disscusion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Malik of Sindh
    Gold is good for Indo greeks,Red for Maurya,White Cyrene.
    Think about what colors are prominent in the regions. Tea Green might work better for Maurya than red.

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