Asia ton Barbaron disscusion thread

[gamegeek2]

@ other devs: Sorry, just trying to generate interest. It's gone now, my bad.

Mappers are always welcome, but we really need more skinners/modelers, we only have 1 or 2 right now (I think).

[gamegeek2]

Is everyone on break? Funny, my spring break was a while ago

[svramj]

guys get back to business, for those who do not know pre-peform Mauryans and Pandyans are over.

[Admetos]

Huh?

[Malik of Sindh]

I think he meant all pre-reform mauryan and pandyan units are finished.

And that we should stop being lazy.

I think.

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

I think he meant all pre-reform mauryan and pandyan units are finished.

Does it means the preview is coming up?

[Malik of Sindh]

Maybe, maybe not

[keravnos]

A map of IndoGreek /and other cities around Taxila region (or Taksashila).

Hoping your mapper can make use of that.

[Malik of Sindh]

Thanks for all the support keravnos, these maps are very helpful.

[svramj]

A map of IndoGreek /and other cities around Taxila region (or Taksashila).

Hoping your mapper can make use of that.

our great thanks Keravnos, one request, can we add your name in the credits ?

[keravnos]

Of course!

On that map, I forgot to mention that the cities in white aka Kabul, Peshawar, etc are contemporary cities that are put there to enable easier location of the ancient sites.

[Malik of Sindh]

All Pandyan, Mauryan and Indian AOR units are finished. Expect a preview pretty soon

[Malik of Sindh]

Hey all AtB fans! We have something for you. We decided to show you 5 units we created, so you don't get spoiled. :D.

Here you see some troops from all over India, from south to north.We have much more for you. We'll post it someday later :D


Mauryan:
Ksatriya Dhanavihna (Mauryan Early Longbowmen)



No more slow tribals' bows for us! We now utilize a nice wooden bow, a "recurved" longbow. Now we can shoot our arrows just as well as before, but far faster. Just give the word, and a hail of death will fall upon your target. We also carry swords, but these are for making quick work of weak enemies or as a last resort; we are no Yodha swordsmen.

The Indian longbow was a fearsome, tall weapon, comparative in size to what the English developed later on. However, significant differences exist between these men and their medieval counterparts; while the Anglo-Welsh longbow came from the relatively rare yew tree, the Indian one came from bamboo, making it cheaper. However, this longbow was too slow, so the Mauryans developed a wooden bow that retained the old bow's range and penetration capabilities while greatly increasing firepower capabilities. However, it is no match for the later English bow; the best Anglo-Welsh longbowmen could shoot 12 arrows a minute accurately at a range of 300 meters.

Among the four different types of Indian armies are the Ksatriyas. The Mauryan king commands four types of Indian armies and the best among them are those from the core of the empire, the Ksatriyas. These men are born to war caste of people who are warlike yet well disciplined by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra. Ksatriyas were also trained in sreni (guilds) but what differentiated them from their sreni counterparts was their caste. Ksatriyas were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.

Ksatriya Yodha (Mauryan Swordsmen)



Hail, Rajan! The young from the professional Ksatriya class, we form the backbone of your army, along with the Kuntabhata spearmen. After the archers have done their job or are forced to retire, send us in as an iron fist to sweep aside your foes, with our elders (the Kuntabhata) watching our flanks and back. Utilize us at the head of your PadmaVuhya (lotus) formation, for we are some of your finest infantry. As proud Ksatriyas, we wear Kavcha (metal armour) and a long, thick turban. Our tool of killing is a fine Aari longsword, while our off-hand bears a tough Thada (shield).

Historically, the Yodha came from the younger Ksatriyas, who were more eager, imptetuous, and invigorated in battle, as opposed to the Kuntabhata, who came from the elder Ksatriyas and were more disciplined and defensive. This difference is notably similar to the Romans' system: Hastati/Principes 'legionary' infantry came from younger men, while the Triarii hoplitai/heavy spearmen came from the elder, battle-hardened veterans.

Among the four different types of Indian armies are the Ksatriyas. The Mauryan king commands four types of Indian armies and the best among them are those from the core of the empire, the Ksatriyas. These men are born to war caste of people who are warlike yet well disciplined by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra. Ksatriyas were also trained in sreni (guilds) but what differentiated them from their sreni counterparts was their caste. Ksatriyas were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.

Mauryan Sainika (Mauryan Levy)


In times of foreign invasion and civil disorder it is difficult to keep the populace (and battlefront) in line with a lower number of men, no matter their or their general's skill. In time when numbers matter, the old and weak retire and the [untrained] able men among the Ksatriyas are called to arms. The veterans among them consider this as another chance to win glory in battle and/or death in their King's name. Lacking proper equipment, these men equip themselves with hunting weapons and other low quality or handmade war gear. They carry a light bamboo spear, a bamboo longbow, and a wooden shield. Though they are of poor quality, they make up for this in energy and lust for glory. Still, these men are not true soldiers, and should be used for archery and nothing more.

The Indian longbow was a fearsome, tall weapon, comparative in size to what the English developed later on. However, significant differences exist between these men and their medieval counterparts; while the Anglo-Welsh longbow came from the relatively rare yew tree, the Indian one came from bamboo, making it cheaper. However, this longbow was too slow, so the Mauryans developed a wooden bow that retained the old bow's range and penetration capabilities while greatly increasing firepower capabilities. However, it is no match for the later English bow; the best Anglo-Welsh longbowmen could shoot 12 arrows a minute accurately at a range of 300 meters. These longbowmen are equipped with the old-style bamboo longbow, meaning they are cheaper but not really as effective.

Among the four different types of Indian armies are the Ksatriyas. The Mauryan king commands four types of Indian armies and the best among them are those from the core of the empire, the Ksatriyas. These men are born to war caste of people who are warlike yet well disciplined by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra. Ksatriyas were also trained in sreni (guilds) but what differentiated them from their sreni counterparts was their caste. Ksatriyas were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.

Pandyan:

Sathriya Ieetipadai (Pandyan Spearmen)



Hail, Arasan! We are your battle-hardened veteran spearmen, drawn from more elder Ksatriyas, and work in tandem with the almost-hyperactive Yodha swordsmen to form the backbone of your (and any good Indian commander's) army. Use us as flank-guards, advance guards for the archers, and behind the swordsmen in case any foe (especially horsemen) should get the better of them. We are the spearhead (quite literally) of the Chakraviyuha (impenetrable wheel) formation, and roll over outnumbered foes in this way. As proud Sathriyans, we wear Kavasam (metal armour) and a helmet. As our vel (spear) delivers death, our tough Kedayam (shield) blocks any foolish attempt to harm us.

Among the four different types of armies in India are the superior Sathriyans. They are very similar (culture-wise) to the Vedic Ksatriyas, such as those prominent in the Mauryan Empire, despite mostly being Dravidian and not Indo-Aryan. These men are born to the disciplined warrior-caste governed by the warrior ethics of Arthashastra, whose teachings were translated as Sanskrit became dialectized, much like Vulgar Latin. Sathriyans were also trained in sreni but what differentiated them from their normal sreni counterparts was their caste. Sathriyans were trained by a recognized martial arts teacher in sreni-funded and royally maintained facilities. Other sreni produce lesser-quality solders who fight for livelihood, unlike men from the Ksatriya caste who fight for glory and protection of their people.

Southern India AOR:
Thazhvar Sirupadai (Indian Tribal Sicklemen)

The Dravidian Hindu tribes were fearsome warriors in their own way. They used the Aruvaazh (or Sickle), A single sided heavy sword. They inhabited through out south Indian in the regions. They wore no armor much like the North Indian tribes. These men are more spiritual and fanatic hence are very war like in nature. Their attitude gives them tirelessness and ferociousness in battle.

Historically, Tribe leader king Erumayooran commanded most number of these men. He allied with the Cheras and fought thge Pandyans when Pandyans were lead by a 16 year old King Pandiyan Nedunchezhiyan. Cheras and the Erumayoor tribe and 5 other tribes thought the young Pandyan king in-capable of leading a battle and attacked the capital Madurai. But the Young king who knew the plans of these tribes and the Chera King was prepared and won the Battle against the mighty army that was lead by 7 generals Chera king, Erumayoor king and 5 other tribe leaders. This was the beginning of the Pandyan conquest and these tribes men who were challenging in their Initial expansion were later subjected to their cause.

All units, unit names and unit descriptions are WIP unless stated. They could and probably will receive small changes

We hope you enjoyed this preview. Expect more previews in the future.

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

This is awesome! I can't wait to see more!

[svramj]

expect more in the future guys......and our map is getting ready on a fast pace now

[Bactron]

These units are amazing, really great job guys!

[Malik of Sindh]

Believe me, you will see much better units in future previews

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

Believe me, you will see much better units in future previews

I hope they're not too far...

[Malik of Sindh]

They are already finished. But we will only post them after a few more previews.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Nice work guys.

[Malik of Sindh]

Nice work guys.

Thank you for your support Marcus.

[Uranos]

The units look great


btw. have you guys considered using some of Prom's units?:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=138262

[Admetos]

Thanks for the support Uranos. I think we have talked about, and we may in fact be using some already. Not 100% sure though. I'm sure svramj will be able to say.

[Leviathan DarklyCute]

Thanks for the support Uranos. I think we have talked about, and we may in fact be using some already. Not 100% sure though. I'm sure svramj will be able to say.

Well if you used them, I hope that you at least reskin them.

[soibean]

great looking units so far

[Khazar_Dahvos]

great preview!!!! looking forward to the completion of this mod guys!!!!!

[svramj]

The units look great

btw. have you guys considered using some of Prom's units?:
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=138262

We are already using some of Prome's units with his permission. But not all. We have done most of our units with EB units as base. Prome's units look bit larger than EB most EB units. so we considered making most of them our own. We have used a unit or 2 from Prome, that we will preview soon.

[Mithridates VI Eupator]

Wow!

Those units look great!
Maybe I should check the AtB-thread more often!

Way to go, guys!

[gamegeek2]

Sorry, we are being really damn lazy right now. Guyz, there hasn't been a post for days on the forum...

[Ayce]

Sorry for being lazy and not checking what has been discussed, but on the first page, I see the faction list has 1 free slot, have you decided who are you going to use as a 20th faction, or at least if it will be European, Asia or African?