America Freedom to Fascism

[ICantSpellDawg]

are you serious? what the heck?

[Louis VI the Fat]

Who is not required to file quarterly estimated income taxes?

Title 26 USC, SEC. 6654. FAILURE BY INDIVIDUALS TO PAY ESTIMATED INCOME TAX.

States:

(e) Exceptions. -

1.Where tax is small amount. -- No addition to tax shall be imposed under subsection (a) for any taxable year if the tax shown on the return for such taxable year (or, if no return is filed, the tax), reduced by the credit allowable under section 31, is less than $500.

2.Where no tax liability for preceding taxable year.--No addition to tax shall be imposed under subsection (a) for any taxable year if --

A. The preceding taxable year was a taxable year of 12 months.

B. The individual did not have any liability for tax for the preceding taxable year, and

C. The individual was a citizen or resident of the United States throughout the preceding taxable year . (emphasis added)

If your are a citizen you are exempt if you work within the borders of the US. Says so right there.

But...but Gawain, it already says under 2A that you are exempt from paying taxes if 'The preceding taxable year was a taxable year of 12 months' !!!

Now I would argue that quite a lot of years consist of twelve months, and that therefore Americans are exempt from paying taxes in those years!!1!!1!!!

Unless, of course, on the odd chance that we somehow failed to understand the meaning of the above quotes...

[macsen rufus]

(e) Exceptions. -

1.Where tax is small amount. -- No addition to tax shall be imposed under subsection (a) for any taxable year if the tax shown on the return for such taxable year (or, if no return is filed, the tax), reduced by the credit allowable under section 31, is less than $500.

2.Where no tax liability for preceding taxable year.--No addition to tax shall be imposed under subsection (a) for any taxable year if --

A. The preceding taxable year was a taxable year of 12 months.

B. The individual did not have any liability for tax for the preceding taxable year, and

C. The individual was a citizen or resident of the United States throughout the preceding taxable year . (emphasis added)

There, fixed it...

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Aaron Russo talks with IRS Commissioner

From the movie. This is the guy who wrote the code he is talking to.

Protesters Win a Case Over I.R.S.

The federal government's campaign against income tax protesters suffered a major setback yesterday when a federal jury in Sacramento acquitted a former Internal Revenue Service investigator on charges of helping to prepare false tax returns.

The former investigator, Joseph R. Banister, 42, of San Jose, Calif., has become a hero to the tax protest movement, even though two of his clients are serving long prison sentences after following his advice.

Mr. Banister was acquitted on charges of conspiracy and helping to prepare three false tax returns for a small California manufacturer.

"Everything I have done in my entire career at the I.R.S. and after, I've done with integrity and honesty," Mr. Banister said after the verdict. "My clients wanted some answers to questions about what was required."

He added: "As a C.P.A., my duties are to my clients, to make sure they get the best results."

Mr. Banister resigned from the I.R.S. criminal investigation division in 1999 after he wrote a lengthy report asserting that no law requires the payment of taxes and that Americans were being tricked into paying them. The theories he has put forth have been uniformly rejected by the courts.

The I.R.S. declined to comment on the verdict. The prosecutor, Robert Twiss, said the verdict showed only that the jury did not believe the government had proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

The only way they enforce this is through the intimidation of the courts as there is no law they cant site.

[Tribesman]

If your are a citizen you are exempt if you work within the borders of the US. Says so right there.

What lunatic blog have you been reading now Gawain ?

It says you are exempt from the set additional tax penalties if you were living in the US in the 12 months and didn't owe any taxes for those 12 months and that was your reason for not paying tax for those 12 months.
Sooooo .... if you didn't have a taxable income and that is the reason why you didn't make a return on your taxable income additional penalties for not paying money that you didn't owe cannot be imposed because you didn't owe any money .

[Marshal Murat]

So what is the 16th amendment about?

[Ice]

What lunatic blog have you been reading now Gawain ?

It says you are exempt from the set additional tax penalties if you were living in the US in the 12 months and didn't owe any taxes for those 12 months and that was your reason for not paying tax for those 12 months.
Sooooo .... if you didn't have a taxable income and that is the reason why you didn't make a return on your taxable income additional penalties for not paying money that you didn't owe cannot be imposed because you didn't owe any money .

That makes to much sense Tribesman.

Alright everyone, nobody file taxes. Let's see who is audited and has appear in court for income tax evasion.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

You havent shown me where I was liable the previous year and you cant. Someone watch the damn movie. If you follow any of this back it always leads to only three classes of people being liable. Foreigners working in the US, US citizens working abroad and Foreign companies doing bussiness within the US. Im not saying just that one clause exempts you because your a US citizen.

Theft By Deception - Deciphering The Federal Income Tax

Let's see that one hold up in court.

No Law for U.S. Income Tax (1/2)

No Law for U.S. Income Tax (2/2)

So what is the 16th amendment about?

It made the income tax an indirect tax so as to be constitutional.

[Tribesman]

If you follow any of this back it always leads to only three classes of people being liable. Foreigners working in the US, US citizens working abroad and Foreign companies doing bussiness within the US. Im not saying just that one clause exempts you because your a US citizen.

Bollox Gawain , its exactly what you are saying , taking one clause relating to one issue and attempting to marry it to all issues when it is irrelevant to those issues .
another example would be...

Did you realize that you were REQUESTING that tax be withheld from your paycheck ? If you don't make that REQUEST, what LEGAL authority is there to withhold tax (any money) from your pay? Do you think this might be an important thing to be told to employee's? Why weren't you told? Why don't the "tax pros" tell you?

That relates to opting to have your employer responsible for deducting your tax liability at source rather than you settling your liabilty on income yourself , if you don't make that request the the responsibilty transfers to yourself (generally its a good move to opt to do it yourself if you have a decent accountant as your employer will only go through the basics as its your money not his so you end up paying more than you should ) .
Now the "tax-pros" will tell you that because they want to make money out of you by doing your tax returns instead of your employer or yourself doing them . So what you mean is why don't the "tax officials" tell you that ...they will tell you if you ask them , but if you don't ask you won't know .

BTW how did you manage to watch that film , the commentator is on mogodon or something isn't he

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Bollox Gawain , its exactly what you are saying , taking one clause relating to one issue and attempting to marry it to all issues when it is irrelevant to those issues .
another example would be..

Watch that last video it walks you through it step by step.

That relates to opting to have your employer responsible for deducting your tax liability at source rather than you

That would make him a witholding agent. He is not resonsible to be one but they make employers think they are. You just dont seem to grasp all this legal hocus pocus they use.

If you can find the law there is lots of money in it for you. One site has had a 10000 dollar reward for 25 years now to anyone who can do so.

[Tribesman]

That would make him a witholding agent. He is not resonsible to be one but they make employers think they are. You just dont seem to grasp all this legal hocus pocus they use.

He is responsible once he accepts that position as an employer if requested , if he does not accept that position then the employee is liable .