America Freedom to Fascism

[Gawain of Orkeny]

You havent shown me where I was liable the previous year and you cant. Someone watch the damn movie. If you follow any of this back it always leads to only three classes of people being liable. Foreigners working in the US, US citizens working abroad and Foreign companies doing bussiness within the US. Im not saying just that one clause exempts you because your a US citizen.

Theft By Deception - Deciphering The Federal Income Tax

Let's see that one hold up in court.

No Law for U.S. Income Tax (1/2)

No Law for U.S. Income Tax (2/2)

So what is the 16th amendment about?

It made the income tax an indirect tax so as to be constitutional.

[Tribesman]

If you follow any of this back it always leads to only three classes of people being liable. Foreigners working in the US, US citizens working abroad and Foreign companies doing bussiness within the US. Im not saying just that one clause exempts you because your a US citizen.

Bollox Gawain , its exactly what you are saying , taking one clause relating to one issue and attempting to marry it to all issues when it is irrelevant to those issues .
another example would be...

Did you realize that you were REQUESTING that tax be withheld from your paycheck ? If you don't make that REQUEST, what LEGAL authority is there to withhold tax (any money) from your pay? Do you think this might be an important thing to be told to employee's? Why weren't you told? Why don't the "tax pros" tell you?

That relates to opting to have your employer responsible for deducting your tax liability at source rather than you settling your liabilty on income yourself , if you don't make that request the the responsibilty transfers to yourself (generally its a good move to opt to do it yourself if you have a decent accountant as your employer will only go through the basics as its your money not his so you end up paying more than you should ) .
Now the "tax-pros" will tell you that because they want to make money out of you by doing your tax returns instead of your employer or yourself doing them . So what you mean is why don't the "tax officials" tell you that ...they will tell you if you ask them , but if you don't ask you won't know .

BTW how did you manage to watch that film , the commentator is on mogodon or something isn't he

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Bollox Gawain , its exactly what you are saying , taking one clause relating to one issue and attempting to marry it to all issues when it is irrelevant to those issues .
another example would be..

Watch that last video it walks you through it step by step.

That relates to opting to have your employer responsible for deducting your tax liability at source rather than you

That would make him a witholding agent. He is not resonsible to be one but they make employers think they are. You just dont seem to grasp all this legal hocus pocus they use.

If you can find the law there is lots of money in it for you. One site has had a 10000 dollar reward for 25 years now to anyone who can do so.

[Tribesman]

That would make him a witholding agent. He is not resonsible to be one but they make employers think they are. You just dont seem to grasp all this legal hocus pocus they use.

He is responsible once he accepts that position as an employer if requested , if he does not accept that position then the employee is liable .

[Gawain of Orkeny]

He is responsible once he accepts that position as an employer if requested

No he must first ask the IRS to be a wiithholding agent

if he does not accept that position then the employee is liable .

He would be if you could find a law that says so. Again its worth at least 10000 dollars to you.

[woad&fangs]

Only watched 3 minutes of the video in the OP but that was enough. If the 16th amendment was indeed not properly ratified and no action was ever taken to fix this than it does not exist and the government has no right tax our income.

[TevashSzat]

While all of your arguments are all very nice, why can't you then openly declare yourself as someone who isn't paying taxes to the IRS and see if they will do anything about it? Judging from your certainty, its almost impossible for you to lose in a court battle should the IRS do something

[Gawain of Orkeny]

While all of your arguments are all very nice, why can't you then openly declare yourself as someone who isn't paying taxes to the IRS and see if they will do anything about it

Are you kidding. I want nothing from the government. I dont even want them to know I exist. I have never had a bank account or a credit card. Im way off the radar screen and I intend to keep it that way. I dont even apply for veterans benefits Im entitled to.