So EB players and team members , where do you go to school or what is your degree?

[Kurulham]

Its all very true actually, I live in Serbia whose GDP is less then 3,500 $ per capita and I get free health and my medicine - and to tell you something, no body who get's 'horrifically sick' uses his tuition money to pay for hospital bills!

If I lived in Serbia I'd probably have been dead. Actually if I'd lived anywhere except London or Maryland I'd probably have been dead; if I'd gotten to the hospital an hour later it'd have been too late, and even then I happened to be lucky enough to be rushed to a hospital with one of the foremost experts in his field.

That's what I meant by the "thank God for Johns Hopkins".

I wont be addressing in this post again

Sorry if I came off as hostile; that wasn't my intent. I have a soapbox on this subject (public vs. private health care systems) that I try very hard to stay off of; obviously I didn't do a good enough job. Mea culpa.

[Landwalker]

if I'd gotten to the hospital an hour later it'd have been too late, and even then I happened to be lucky enough to be rushed to a hospital with one of the foremost experts in his field.

And God knows no "public health care" system would've given half as much a hoot about getting you there in the first place, at least not in anything approaching a timely manner. When you hear tales of Canadians being on a nine-month waiting list for a life-or-death operation, it makes you appreciate the whole "you get what you pay for" line of reasoning.

Cheers.

[Thaatu]

And God knows no "public health care" system would've given half as much a hoot about getting you there in the first place, at least not in anything approaching a timely manner. When you hear tales of Canadians being on a nine-month waiting list for a life-or-death operation, it makes you appreciate the whole "you get what you pay for" line of reasoning.

It's good to see that you think doctors do what they do for money. Hearing about insurance companies denying insurance & treatment makes me appreciate the "you have free health insurance, and if you're not happy with it you can go see a private doctor" policy we have in this joint.

[Zaknafien]

Im shocked that Landwalker knows so much about doctors in socialized healthcare countries to know they care nothing for people's health. I want to see where you heard about that nine-month waiting list, I'm sure its some form of anti-healthcare propaganda you've been exposed to. You should watch SICKO, it will make you sick.

[Tellos Athenaios]

And God knows no "public health care" system would've given half as much a hoot about getting you there in the first place, at least not in anything approaching a timely manner. When you hear tales of Canadians being on a nine-month waiting list for a life-or-death operation, it makes you appreciate the whole "you get what you pay for" line of reasoning.

Cheers.

Heh heh. Well we don't have a free for all health care system over here in the Netherlands (which doesn't mean hospitals won't take care of you when you need it -- they are obliged to, by law you see ) I don't think most of the countries have that bad a health care if it's free. I mean: say what you will - the NHS is actually pretty good AFAIK.

(Oh and you know what? Your argument is typically applied in the reverse: the Public Doctors don't get paid as much - so they don't really have to go for the money. If they would, they'd set up their own private clinics...)

[russia almighty]

What do you guys have there ? Subsidized health care ? Or is independent health insurance cheap there ?

[Tellos Athenaios]

What do you guys have there ? Subsidized health care ? Or is independent health insurance cheap there ?

A bit difficult - as with every Dutch Social legislation - anywho:

-People under age are insured through their parent's insurance (usually free, because usually the parents have their insurance through the company they work for, with special arangements etc. etc.);
-Everyone of age (18 or older) is obliged to have a sort of "minimum-insurance" usually students can get a special arangement through their Uni or whatever they attend (Currently some E 85,- a month) ;
-There is the "AWBZ" and similiar legislation which is a way of paying for special healthcare through taxes. Whenever you suddenly find yourself to have acquired some illness that needs extensive medicine to get you cured - you can call upon the AWBZ etc. to pay these costs either in full or for a very large part.
-Whenever you suddenly need to go to the OK the hospital is obliged to treat you even if you're not insured. This is payed for through aforementioned taxes.

So it's basically partially "Free healthcare" and partially insurance work. You can compare it with going to a Uni: you don't pay the Uni in full, but you do pay a fee every year to attend and you do pay for the books.

[Pharnakes]

-There is the "AWBZ"

Is it just me or does this sound like some form of Sweboz unit?b The Auwboz warband - armed with impoted bartixian laser beams, unfortunately, being impoted they are usless and akin to Apelethureoi, only without lethality.


Anyway, I am currently doing my first year at St. Andrews, studying biology with a view to a Msc in behavioural Biology. Also doing Chemistry and Geology.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Not really if you're Dutch; but I can see where you come from so to speak.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Algemene Wet Bijzondere Ziektenkosten

Pronounced:

A (as in the French la) W (as way) B (as bay) Z (as set with a z instead of s)

Meaning:

"Common Law (for) Special Costs due to illness"

Mind you, ever thought it funny how retarded half the English vocabulary sounds? As if they are all either country bumpkins with some terrible speech disorder? Or as if they are all trying to speech with a very hot potato in their mouth?

[NeoSpartan]

IfThat's what I meant by the "thank God for Johns Hopkins".
...

John Hopkins is the S**t man, my mom went there to get treated once. And a have friend who is neuroscientis and he showed me all the gizmos, rats, brains, scans, even a radioactive material they use to make CAT scans. The place is awesome.


-btw Zak, take SICKO with a grain of salt man, u know Moore has the unfortunate tendency to spin things to the left instead of staying in the center. I gotta rent it though, and see what he says about Cuba, I lived there, have famility there, (my mom is there now visiting) and I know BS when I see it.

BTW (for those who don't live int he US, or live here but forgot) in the US you will NOT be denied health care. HOWEVER, if your not "under 18, or broke poor (recieves food stamps, etc), or dependent with a broke guardian" you will have to pay it AFTER care was given. Not before. If you don't pay it ur credit score get screwed up pretty bad.

-Now if u don't have health insurance, ur not any of the above 3, and ur injury does not require immidiate assistance you WILL have to wait a rather long time.

[Tarkus]

Sakkura, Spectral...another science geek here...I feel ya!
[Check my earlier post...]

[Urnamma]

B.S., B.A. University of Chicago
M.A. Purdue University (good to see a couple of you guys here)
J.D. / Ph.D. University of Chicago

[Tarkus]

B.S., B.A. University of Chicago
M.A. Purdue University (good to see a couple of you guys here)
J.D. / Ph.D. University of Chicago

Go Boilers!!!