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    what famouse battles would we like to see in this games historical battle feature,reinforcing the naval battle feature,i would like to play trafalgar and balaclava mostley.
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    Balaclava is out of the time period of this game. The Crimean War takes place in the 1850's, and I gather that this game will end in the 1820's. The technology is vastly different.

    I'd like to see BORO-FREAKIN-DINO included. Napoleons Eastern campaign so often gets ignored by the history books, aside from a graph that shows how a bunch of people died during it.
    Other than that, I'd like to see some of the battles between the British and Indian nations.
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    @Sheogorath: You mean Borodino, I suppose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodion Romanovich
    @Sheogorath: You mean Borodino, I suppose?
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    There should be no discussion that Borodino should be put in. It was by far the largest battle in the Napoleonic wars. Other battles to be considered should be Austerlitz, Freidland, Jena, or Leipzig. I am sure Traflangar and Waterloo will be put in.

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    Some suggestions and wishes (remember mtw 1 historical campaigns, series of battles fought out following the same commander or conflict, development of that concept would be nice for historic battles);

    Narva
    Crossing of Düna
    Kliszow
    Fraustadt
    Holowczyn
    Poltava
    Perevolotjna (what if scenario)
    Prut (what if scenario)
    Helsingborg
    Gadebusch
    Blenheim and other battles of Marlbourough
    Svensksund 1 and 2 (naval battles)
    Denmark - Britain navla battle during Napoleonic wars (historically the british bombarded the danish navy and Copenhagen but what if the danes were ready when they came?)
    Battles of Friedrich der Grosse

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    By what I know of the Indo-European battles fought in my country, though I do not claim my knowladge to be full proof or to be an expert on the subject, these were rather a one sided affair, as traitors had sprung up and aided the East India Company. I really don't know how will they be able to depict that.
    The largest proper war here was the 1857 war which ended the Company raj and Indians becae direct subjects of the queen Victoria.

    Anyway, even I'd love to play out battles based on Napoleon's career.
    Too bad its only upto 1820, Cremian Wars would have been a good addition.

    Maybe they'll be an addition........ a xpack later on......


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    I second Narva and Poltava. In fact, I hope the Great Northern War gets the attention it deserves in this game.

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    I thought this was only from 1700 to 1800 so most of Napoleon's battles are out of the time sequence.Think 1700's.....any of Frederick the Great's battle's Rossbach and so on....The Jacobite Rebellion battle's Culloden and so on.....The American Revolution battle's Saratoga and so on....The Great Northern War....The French Indian War....The Wars of Spanish Succession....
    The Wars of Polish Succession....The Russo-Turkish War....The Battle of Plassey....The Anglo-Mysore Wars....The Northwest Indian War....to name but a few.....

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    The bombardment of the fort at toulon
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    ohhh....forgot islwandia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzman1O1
    ohhh....forgot islwandia
    Isandlwana? That too would be out of the time period.

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    Some people don't know their history "The battle of Isandlwana" 1879 different time period and technology with the british infantryman using the Martini-Henry rifle.

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    It says "to the early 1800's" so this will probaly include until the
    end of the Napoleonic wars & also the fact that they said they'd
    include the American civil war I believe which took part in the 1800's
    (forgot if it was in the 1820's or 1880's), u can't have a game that the main
    soldier uses gunpowder & not have the Napoleonic wars, the only
    reason y they shouldn't add the Napoleonic wars is that Imperial Glory
    has done it, (though they didn't do a great job when u support the
    fact that the tiny range of cannons, small amount of troops & battle
    re-enacted historical battles)
    But that is not a good enough reason really. Napoleonic wars r much
    more favoured than any other war from the 1700's-1850's with the American
    civil war behind (in the 1800's)

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    US Civil war was in the 1860's, way past the games time frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick the Great
    I thought this was only from 1700 to 1800 so most of Napoleon's battles are out of the time sequence.Think 1700's.....any of Frederick the Great's battle's Rossbach and so on....The Jacobite Rebellion battle's Culloden and so on.....The American Revolution battle's Saratoga and so on....The Great Northern War....The French Indian War....The Wars of Spanish Succession....
    The Wars of Polish Succession....The Russo-Turkish War....The Battle of Plassey....The Anglo-Mysore Wars....The Northwest Indian War....to name but a few.....
    Personally, I hope it continues all the way up to 1815
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    Don't get me wrong as I would love the Napoleonic Wars to be included,
    with Waterloo being my favourite land battle,but I think the game will be massive as it is and CA will probable keep this for another game which will refight the 19th century battles.The 1700's was bloody enough without going into the next century.Can't wait to see the uniforms of this era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick the Great
    Some people don't know their history "The battle of Isandlwana" 1879 different time period and technology with the british infantryman using the Martini-Henry rifle.
    im pretty sure the certain expanisoin pack to etw will have rorkes drift(islwandia),and the crimean war....just a thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzman1O1
    im pretty sure the certain expanisoin pack to etw will have rorkes drift(islwandia),and the crimean war....just a thought
    Wrong time period, yet again. Different tactics, not to mention off the map. MTW expansions usually dont expand the map.
    The tactics of post-Crimean War warfare wouldnt work well in the TW engine. Repeating rifles and suchlike just wouldnt work.
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    Waterloo must be in !
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    Depends on whether or not we have Napoleon at all >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheogorath
    Wrong time period, yet again. Different tactics, not to mention off the map. MTW expansions usually dont expand the map.
    The tactics of post-Crimean War warfare wouldnt work well in the TW engine. Repeating rifles and suchlike just wouldnt work.
    rome total war barbarian invasion takes plase around more than 200 years after the original rome starts(if my history is correct),with highly diffrent battle tactics,so sheograth,im afraid my theory still lies into question...always expect the unexpected..did the romans suspect hannibal crossing the alps?...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzman1O1
    rome total war barbarian invasion takes plase around more than 200 years after the original rome starts(if my history is correct),with highly diffrent battle tactics,so sheograth,im afraid my theory still lies into question...always expect the unexpected..did the romans suspect hannibal crossing the alps?...
    The battle tactics didn't differ as drastically as the years in between the end of E:TW and the Battle of Isandlwana. Battle tactics changed in modern Europe from columns to small-unit tactics, which are much harder to represent.

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    Hi Ozzman101,
    sorry mate,but you do make me laugh Sheogorath is perfectly right in what he say's about the tactic's and technoligy being totally different in the ETW era to that of the 1850's or even later in the Zulu wars of the 1870's.
    The original RTW started around 270BC and RTW Barbarian Invasion go's to 400AD although don't quote me on this as it's been a while since I've played this.During this period tactic's did change, but technoligy changed very little except for siege warfare.
    ETW starts at 1700 where the main armament was the flintlock musket.Drilled and experienced soldiers could load and fire their muskets at a rate of three rounds per minute.
    A repeating rifle is a single barreled rifle containing multiple rounds of ammunition. These rounds are loaded from a magazine by means of a manual or automatic mechanism, and the action that reloads the rifle also typically recocks the firing action. The term repeating rifle is most often applied to weapons in which the next cartridge is loaded by a manual action, as opposed to self-loading rifles, in which the force of one shot is used to load the next.
    Repeating rifles were a significant advance over the preceding breech loaded single-shot rifles when used for military combat, as they allowed a much greater rate of fire.
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    Battle of Assaye. One of the most brilliantly-fought battle.

    Although I am honestly not sure how the game will be depicted or fought/win with row of 100 guns all pointing at the poor infantrymen *ouch* (refer to M2TW armies of flaming artillery deaths) AND lots of infantry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick the Great
    Hi Ozzman101,
    sorry mate,but you do make me laugh Sheogorath is perfectly right in what he say's about the tactic's and technoligy being totally different in the ETW era to that of the 1850's or even later in the Zulu wars of the 1870's.
    The original RTW started around 270BC and RTW Barbarian Invasion go's to 400AD although don't quote me on this as it's been a while since I've played this.During this period tactic's did change, but technoligy changed very little except for siege warfare.
    ETW starts at 1700 where the main armament was the flintlock musket.Drilled and experienced soldiers could load and fire their muskets at a rate of three rounds per minute.
    A repeating rifle is a single barreled rifle containing multiple rounds of ammunition. These rounds are loaded from a magazine by means of a manual or automatic mechanism, and the action that reloads the rifle also typically recocks the firing action. The term repeating rifle is most often applied to weapons in which the next cartridge is loaded by a manual action, as opposed to self-loading rifles, in which the force of one shot is used to load the next.
    Repeating rifles were a significant advance over the preceding breech loaded single-shot rifles when used for military combat, as they allowed a much greater rate of fire.
    i will not have a correction after my posts any longer by senior members that SEEM to know everything any longer!example:the spanish main infantry that were popular mercenaries for hamilcar barca in the first punic war and were famed for there ways of throwing javelins before charging accompined by large round shields that were very affective against velite spears!They quikly developed to be a prized group around the medetteranian and were the reason the romans adopted a round like shape for there sheilds the romans utilized in later years...A spanish barbarian warband that led to the reform of the roman empire!!!dec 23,1835,the seminole indians with the use of tomahawk axes only with short,wooden,bows led by cheif micanopy,alligator,and jumper ambush major francis dade's army of u.s. men in central florida and only lose 3 warriors and massacred the u.s. and dade!A force of 300 seminole warriors that massacre so many u.s. troops with such horrible tactics and weapons against the finest?!bravery and heroics that even may equal that of leonidas at thermopalae!
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    by the way,read my signature!!


    any way,i would like the battle of the thousand islands...pierre pouchot with 300 regulars,militia,sailors battle jeffrey amherst with 11,000sailors and militia with 700 natives...a great clash of cultures and an essential battle of the french-indian war.
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    Waterloo
    Culloden
    Falkirk
    PrestanPans
    Salamanca
    Quatra bras

    there is lots more i have

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    The battle of Derna in the US-Barbary Coast war.
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    but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely
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