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    no disrespect to those who want historical battles or to e patriots who fought or their gr8 gr8 gr8 grand children who're in e forum, bt i Wud love to play as brits n keep ma possessions in e new world n create ma own HISTORICAL battles! ofcourse CA wil make it diff to any1to hold onto e new world by 1770 n further other than e AMERICANS! i Wud Lk to c Hw hard It'll be wit battles n logistic support to e dragoons n e redcoats in NORTH AMERICA!
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    Translation:
    Playing as the British and keeping the 13 Colonies would be cool, but CA will make it hard for anybody but the 13 Colonies to keep possession of that area.
    And then theres something about logistics and dragoons and stuff.
    Tallyho lads, rape the houses and burn the women! Leave not a single potted plant alive! Full speed ahead and damn the cheesemongers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by YuriVII
    There should be no discussion that Borodino should be put in. It was by far the largest battle in the Napoleonic wars. Other battles to be considered should be Austerlitz, Freidland, Jena, or Leipzig. I am sure Traflangar and Waterloo will be put in.
    It was not the largest, The Battle of the Nations was.
    Borodino was also the most boring and slugginh ofhis battles.
    Marengo would be a better choice. Austerlitz and Jena I am sure will be in.
    Salamanca and Vittoria would be good.

    The Pyramids I am sure will be chosen, iconic and a chance to show off non-European armies.

    I am sure that there will be more 18th cen. battles included. Maybe even a return of Historical campaigns, those of the Spanish War Of Succession, The Austrian War of Succession, the Seven Years War and the American Rebellion (hehe ).

    Maybe also some battles from the Dutch war and the War of Reunions.

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    If eighties of the seventeenth century can be included I would suggest siege of Vienna (1683)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar

    I am sure that there will be more 18th cen. battles included. Maybe even a return of Historical campaigns, those of the Spanish War Of Succession, The Austrian War of Succession, the Seven Years War and the American Rebellion (hehe ).

    the correct term is American Revolution Smile:
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    The most important ones would be (assuming that the game spans from 1700 to 1815 (1815 would be a logic year to end the game IMO):

    Narva (1700)
    Blenheim (1704)
    Ramillies (1706)
    Poltava (1709)
    Malplaquet (1709)
    Hohenfriedberg (1745)
    Rossbach (1757)
    [Insert some battle from the American Revolution here]
    Austerlitz (1805)
    Eylau (1807)
    Berezina (1812)
    Leipzig (1813)
    Waterloo (1815)

    These are only the ones that come to my mind immediately however, and I'm sure I've forgotten a few that deserve to be in the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innocentius
    The most important ones would be (assuming that the game spans from 1700 to 1815 (1815 would be a logic year to end the game IMO):

    Narva (1700)
    Blenheim (1704)
    Ramillies (1706)
    Poltava (1709)
    Malplaquet (1709)
    Hohenfriedberg (1745)
    Rossbach (1757)
    [Insert some battle from the American Revolution here]
    Austerlitz (1805)
    Eylau (1807)
    Berezina (1812)
    Leipzig (1813)
    Waterloo (1815)

    These are only the ones that come to my mind immediately however, and I'm sure I've forgotten a few that deserve to be in the list.

    For mid 1750's i would think the siege of Fort Carillon(Ticonderoga) in the Frenceh and Indian war and the battle of Saratoga(1778) for the american revolution. other options could be Monmouth (1789?) or Cowpens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Innocentius
    Narva (1700)
    Blenheim (1704)
    Ramillies (1706)
    Poltava (1709)
    Malplaquet (1709)
    Hohenfriedberg (1745)
    Rossbach (1757)
    [Insert some battle from the American Revolution here]
    Austerlitz (1805)
    Eylau (1807)
    Berezina (1812)
    Leipzig (1813)
    Waterloo (1815)
    I'll add Culloden (1746) and Kagul (1770) just to get a wider and more diverse geographical perspective. It would probably be a good idea to add a few more battles between the Russians and the Ottomans though. As for naval battles, I know of too few (I'm not interested enough, to put it simply) to bring up any other than the obvious Trafalgar.
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    Come on guy! CA introduces Naval Battles for the first time and all you can think of is the same old hat land battles.

    There are some great sea battles and even minor engagements can be fun. A ship on ship battle can be a real challenge.


    Here are some….


    Great Northern War (1700-21)1702 June 26 - Small-ship action between Sweden and Russia on Lake Ladoga
    September 7 - Small-ship action between Sweden and Russia on Lake Ladoga
    1703 August 7 - Small-ship action between Sweden and Russia on Lake Peipus
    1704 May 17 - Small-ship action between Sweden and Russia on Lake Peipus
    1705 June 26 - Swedish ships attack Russian base of Kotlin
    1710 October 4 - Denmark under Gyldenløve defeats Sweden under Wachtmeister in Kjöge Bay
    1712 April 11 - Danes under Knoff vs Swedes under Sjöblad ´
    July 31 and August 17 - Danes under Sehested fight and then defeat Swedes under Henck near Rugen
    August 4 - Very minor engagement between Russia and Sweden
    September 28 - Very minor engagement between Denmark and Sweden
    1713 July 22 - Minor engagement between Sweden and Russia
    1714 August 6 Gangut - Russian galleys under Apraksin defeat Swedish force
    1715 April 24 - Danes under Gabel defeat Swedes under Wachtmeister (details)
    1716 July 8 Dynekilen - Danes under Tordenskjold defeat Swedes
    1717 May 14 or 15 - Danish attack on Göteborg is defeated
    July 19 - Danish attack on Strömstad is defeated
    1718 September 17 or 21 - Swedes under King Carl XII defeat Danes under Paulssen
    1719 June 4 Osel Island - Russians defeat Swedes under Wrangel
    July 13 - Danes under Rosenpalm defeat Swedes at Strömstad
    1720 August 7 Grengam - Russian galley fleet under Galitzine defeats Swedish sailing ships under Sjöblad.

    Early 18th century
    1701 August 17 - Maltese raid on La Goulette
    1702 May 29, Battle of Tourville next to Cape de la Hague, north of Cherbourg. French battle fleet attacked by the Anglo-Batavian fleet. French fleet flees to Saint-Malo.
    1702 August 19-24 (OS) - English under Benbow - French under Ducasse draw
    October 23 Vigo Bay - Anglo-Dutch fleet defeat French and Spanish and destroy Spanish treasure fleet
    1703 May 22 Cap de la Roque/Bay of Biscay - French squadron attacks large Anglo-Dutch merchant fleet
    1704 August 24 Malaga - English and Dutch under Rooke narrowly defeat French near Malaga
    1707 October 21 The Lizard - 2 French squadrons under Forbin and Duguay-Trouin defeat British convoy and escort under Richard Edwards
    1709 March 2 - British vs French
    June 25 - Maltese defeat Tripolitans near Cape Santa di Leuca
    1710 April 18 - Maltese defeat Algerines
    1713 April 12 - Maltese defeat Algerines
    - Portuguese defeat Indians near Cheul
    1716 July 8 - Venetians under Corner fight an inconclusive battle against Turks under Jannum Koggia east of Corfu
    1717 June 12, 13, 16 and 22 - Venetians under Flangini vs Turks in northern Aegean July 19 Matapan - Venetians and their allies vs Turks in Gulf of Laconia, Greece
    1718 - Portuguese defeat Indians near Karwar July 20-22 - Venetians vs Turks
    August 11 Cape Passaro - British under George Byng defeat Spanish near Sicily
    1738 June 20, 28 and 29 - Russians vs Turks
    August 9 and 10 - Turks defeat Russians

    War of the Austrian Succession (1740-48)
    1741 January 7 and 8 - British vs French in West Indies
    February 12 - Minor British vs French in Gibraltar Strait
    March-May Cartagena de Indias - Decisive Spanish victory against a large British fleet during the War of Jenkins' Ear
    August 10 Colachel - Raja of Travancore in India defeats Dutch naval force at Colachel
    1742 May 31 - Swedes retreat after battle with Russians in Gulf of Finland (details)
    1744 February 22 Toulon (Cape Sicié) - Draw between Franco-Spanish and British fleets south of Toulon
    1746 June 25 (OS) - British under Edward Peyton vs French under la Bourdonnais
    1747 May 14 1st Cape Finisterre - British under Anson defeat French under de Jonquières
    October 25 2nd Cape Finisterre - British under Hawke defeat French under de l'Etenduère
    1747/48 - French under Labourdonnais vs British under Peyton near Negapatam
    1748 March 7 - British under Cotes defeat Spanish
    October 12 - British vs Spanish near Havana

    Seven Years War (1756-63)
    1756 May 20 Minorca - French under la Galissonnière defeat British under John Byng
    1757 early - French under Kersaint de Coëtnempren vs British at San Domingo
    1758 - Minor French under Duchaffault vs British under Boscawen near Ushant
    - Minor French under Durevest vs British under Saunders near Gibraltar Strait
    April 29 Cuddalore - British under Pocock defeat French under d'Ache
    August 3 Negapatam - British under Pocock defeat French under d'Ache
    1759 August 19 Lagos - British under Boscawen defeat French under de la Clue
    September 10 - Light Swedish force defeats similar Prussian force near Szczecin
    September 10 Pondicherry - British fight French but are too damaged to pursue
    November 20 Quiberon Bay/Cardinaux - British defeat French near St Nazaire
    1760 July 3-8 Restigouche River - British defeat French relief force
    1762 - British attack on Spanish-held Havana

    Russo-Turkish War (1768-74)
    1770 May 27 and 28 - Russians vs Turks near southern Greece June 4 - Minor Russians vs Turks south of Athens July 5-7 Chesma - Russian fleet defeats and burns Turkish fleet off western Turkey
    1772 November 6-8 - Russians defeat Turks west of Patrai, Greece
    1773 July 4 - Russians under Kinsbergen vs Turks September 3 - Russians under Kinsbergen vs Turks September? - Russians vs Turks
    1774 June 20 and July 9/19 - Russians under Tchitchagov and Seniavin vs Turks

    American War of Independence (1776-83)
    1776 October 11 Valcour Island - Benedict Arnold escapes the British fleet under Guy Carleton
    1778 April 19 Frederica Naval Action
    July 27 First Ushant - British under Keppel with 30 ships of the line fight inconclusive action against French under d'Orvilliers with 28 ships
    1779 July 6 Grenada
    end - French vs British under Hyde Parker near Fort Royal, Martinique
    1780 January 16 Cape St Vincent - British under Rodney defeat Spanish under de Langara
    April 17 Martinique - British under Rodney fail to defeat French under de Guichen
    August 9 Spanish-French fleet under Luis de Córdova y Córdova captures 55 ship British convoy
    Spanish-French fleet under Luis de Córdova y Córdova captures 29 ship British convoy
    1781 April 16 Porto Praya - French under Suffren vs British, in the Cape Verde Islands
    April 19 Fort Royal
    - Minor French under de Grasse vs British under Hood
    - Minor French under Destouches vs British under Arbuthnot
    August 5 (15 NS?) Dogger Bank - Draw between Dutch and British squadrons
    September 5 Chesapeake Bay - French under de Grasse drive off British under Graves
    December 12 Second Ushant - British under Kempenfelt capture part of a French convoy from de Guichen
    1782 January 25 St Kitts - British under Hood defeat French under de Grasse
    February 17 Sadras - First fierce but indecisive fight between French under Suffren and British under Hughes near south-east India
    April 9 and 12 The Saintes - British under Rodney decisively defeat French under de Grasse in the West Indies
    April 12 Providien - 2nd fight between Suffren and Hughes off India
    April 21 - British defeat French
    July 6 Negapatam - 3rd fight between Suffren and Hughes off India
    September 3 Trincomalee - Hughes fleet damages Suffren's but withdraws
    October 20 Cape Spartel - Franco-Spanish fleet under Luis de Córdova y Córdova fights British fleet under Richard Howe in indecisive battle. Howe resupplies Gibraltar
    1783 June 20 Cuddalore - Suffren prevents Hughes seizing Cuddalore. Last of the five battles between Suffren and Hughes

    Russo-Turkish War (1787-92)
    1787 August 30 - Russians vs Turks
    September 27, 28 and 30 - Russians vs Turks
    October 15 - Russians defeat Turks
    1788 June 17, 18, 28 and 29 and July 9 - Russian and Turkish land and sea forces clash near Ochakov July 14/25 Ochakov - Russia defeats Turkey near Fidonisi
    1789 June 2-4 - Russians defeat Turks at Sinope
    1790 July 19 Kerch Strait - Slight Russian victory over Turks
    September 8 and 9 Tendra - Russians defeat Turks
    October 31 - Russians defeat Turks at the Sulina mouth
    November 17, 18 - Russians defeat Turks at Tultcha
    November 29 - Russians defeat Turks at Ismail
    November 30, December 1, 2, 4-7 - Russians defeat Turks
    1791 July 9 Machin - Russians defeat Turkish rowing vessels
    August 11 Cape Kaliakra - Slight Russian victory over Turks in a largely inconclusive battle near Bulgaria

    Russo-Swedish War (1788-90)
    The Russian calendar was eleven days behind the Swedish during the eighteenth century, so Russian dates are eleven days earlier.
    1788 July 17 (July 6 OS) Hogland - Bloody engagement between Swedish and Russian battlefleets. Both sides lose a ship, but Swedes withdraw
    1789 July 26 (July 15 OS) Öland – Indecisive action between the Swedish and Russian battlefleets.
    August 24 (August 15 OS) First Svensksund / Rochensalm – Russian galley flotilla decisively defeats Swedes
    September 18 (September 7 OS) - Russians defeat Swedes in small battle near Nyslott (Barezund)
    1790 May 13 (May 2 OS) Reval - Disastrous Swedish attack on Russian battlefleet at Reval (now Tallinn).
    May 15 (May 4 OS) Fredrikshamn - Swedish galley flotilla defeats Russian galley flotilla
    June 3 and 4 (May 23 and 24 OS) - Action off Kronstadt - Indecisive action between the battlefleets.
    July 3 (June 22 OS) Vyborg Bay – The Swedish battlefleet and galley flotilla break through the Russian blockade, suffering heavy losses.
    July 9 (June 28 OS) Second Svensksund / Rochensalm - Decisive victory of the Swedish galley flotilla.

    French Revolutionary War (1793-1802)
    1793 November 6 - French capture HMS Alexander
    November 18 - Short, inconclusive British-French battle
    1794 January 22 and 25 - French attack British convoy
    April 23 - British defeat French frigates
    June 1 The Glorious First of June - British fleet defeats French fleet in North Atlantic but French grain convoy makes it through to Brest
    June 8 - French vs British near Jersey
    August 23 - British defeat French near Brest
    October 22 - French vs British near Mauritius
    1795 March 13 and 14 - British under Hotham vs French under Martin
    June 8 and 9 - British vs French near Belle Isle
    June 23 Groix - British under Hood defeat French under Villaret-Joyeuse off Groix, France
    July 13 - British vs French
    October 7 - British vs French
    1797 February 14 Cape St Vincent - British under Jervis defeat Spanish near Gibraltar
    March 26 - Austrian vessels, supported by Venetian battleship, fight off small French attack
    May 16 - Danish vessels get the better of Tripolitans near Tripoli, Libya
    October 11 Camperdown (Kamperduin) - British fleet under Admiral Duncan defeats Dutch
    1798 August 1-3 The Nile (Aboukir Bay) - British under Nelson defeat moored French fleet under Brueys in Egypt
    October 12 - British defeat French invasion force off western Ireland
    October 28 - Minor British vs French
    1799 August 4 - French attack British convoy
    September 3, 4, 5 and 10 - Minor light skirmishes between British and Spanish
    1801 April 5 Copenhagen - British under Nelson destroy moored Danish ships off København to prevent France taking them over
    July 6-12 Algeciras - French defeat initial British assault, British counter-attack and defeat Franco-Spanish force.

    Napoleonic Wars (1803-15)
    1803 May 23, 24 and 27 - 4 ships take on Tripolitan gunboat force
    May 31, June 1 - Adams vs Tripolitan gunboats
    - Duckworth (British) defeats Rochambeau (French) near Santo Domingo
    1804 February 15 Pulo Aura - French attack British convoy
    August 3, 7, 23/24 and 28 and September 2 - 5 raids on Tripoli
    1805 about February - French squadron raids British
    July 4? - French capture British East Indiaman
    1805 July 4 - 2 Russian ships defeat French gunboat force
    July 22 Cape Finisterre - Inconclusive action between British Admiral Calder and French Admiral Villeneuve
    August 6 - French attack British convoy
    October 21 Trafalgar - Nelson defeats combined Franco-Spanish fleet under Admiral Villeneuve, losing his life but gaining control of the oceans for Britain for the rest of the war
    November 4 - British capture 4 French battleship survivors from Trafalgar
    1806 February 6 San(to) Domingo - British under Duckworth defeat French under Leissegues (French) off Santo Domingo
    July 4 - Russians defeat French in Narenta Channel
    July 26 - British defeat Dutch
    September 25 - British battleships defeat French frigate force
    1807 February 19 - British battleships under Duckworth burn several Turkish ships in Dardanelles
    May - British vs Turks at mouth of Dardanelles
    May 22, 23 Dardanelles - Russians under Admiral Seniavin defeat Turks near Cape Janizary
    July 1 Athos (Lemnos/Monte Sancto) - Russians under Seniavin defeats Turks in northern Aegean
    August 23 and 31 - Danes defeat British light forces near Copenhagen
    September 2-7 Copenhagen - British forces under Admiral Gambier and General Cathcart capture the Danish fleet
    1809 April 13-17 - British capture French battleship near Porto Rico
    late May - HMS Melpomène vs Danish gunboats
    June 25-27 - British and Sicilians vs French near Pozzuoli Bay
    June 31 - French attack British convoy
    October 26 and 31 Cette and ? - Southern France
    November 18 - French frigates defeat British East Indiamen near Mauritius
    December 13 - French frigates capture HMS Junon
    1810 July 3 - French frigate force defeats British East Indiamen in Mozambique Channel (details)
    August 26 Grand Port - French defeat British at Vieux Grand Port, Mauritius
    August 31 - British vs French near Toulon
    1811 March 13 Lissa - British frigates under Hoste defeat larger Franco-Venetian squadron under Dubordieu off Lissa (Vis) in the Adriatic
    November 29 - Britain captures French frigate
    1812 February 22 - Britain captures French battleship Rivoli
    July 12 Lyngør - British sink last Danish frigate
    1813 November 5 - Skirmish between British and French near Toulon

    Independence wars
    1811 March 2 - Spanish defeat Argentines under Juan B. Azopardo at San Nicolás on the Paraná River
    1814 March 11 - Argentines under William Brown attack Spanish under Romerate
    May 14, 16 and 17 - Argentines under William Brown defeat Spanish
    1823 May 4 - Brazilians under Cochrane vs Portuguese
    July 2, 4 and 6 - Brazilians under Cochrane vs Portuguese
    July 24 Lake Maracaibo - Republican naval forces of Venezuela vs Spanish Empire fleet in Lake Maracaibo that includes siege of Defensive Castles in Zapara, San Fernando and San Carlos islands
    1826 February 9 - Argentinians vs Brazilians
    Punta Collares
    June 11 Los Posos (Quilmes) - 11 Argentine vessels under William Brown defeat 31 Brazilian vessels near Buenos Aires
    1827 February 9 Juncal - 15 Argentines under Brown defeat 17 Brazilians under Pereira
    February 24 - Argentines under Brown vs Brazilians near Quilmes
    April 6 and 7 Monte Santiago - Brazilians defeat Argentines under William Brown

    War of 1812
    1812 July 19 First battle of Sackett's Harbor - US turns back British naval attack
    1813 May 28-29 Second battle of Sackett's Harbor - US General Jacob Brown turns back British under Sir George Prevost
    September 13 Lake Erie
    1814 September 11 Plattsburg (Lake Champlain) - US squadron under Thomas Macdonough defeats British under George Downie

    Greek War of Independence
    1821 March 4 - Greeks vs Turks north-west of Zakynthos
    June 5, 6 and 8 - Greeks defeat Turks
    August 10-c. 13 - Skirmishes
    October 1 - Skirmish
    1822 March 4
    May 31
    June 18-19 - Greek fireships under Constantine Kanaris blow up the flagship of Ottoman admiral Kara Ali Pasha
    1823 September 27 - Greeks vs Turks west of Lemnos
    October 23 - Greeks vs Turks near Pondikonisi
    1824 August 11, 12, 13, 16, 17 and c. 26 - Various skirmishes between Greeks and Turks/Egyptians/Tunesians
    September 1 - First Budrum - Greeks vs Turks and Egyptians
    September 9 - Second Budrum
    September 22 - Greeks vs Egyptians near Nikaria
    November 12 and 13 - Greeks vs Turks and Egyptians near Spinalonga
    1825 April 29
    May 26
    June 1 - Greeks defeat Turks between Euboea and Andros
    June 14 and 15 - Greeks defeat Turks and Egyptians near Suda Bay
    June 28 and 29 - Greeks vs Turks and Egyptians south of Cerigo
    August 3 - Greeks defeat Turks near Missolonghi
    November 14 - Greeks under Miaoulis vs Turks/Egyptians/Algerines/Tripolitans near Navarin
    November 25, 26, 29, 30 and December 6 and 7 - Greeks vs Turks (and allies?) near Missolonghi
    1826 January 22 and 28 - Greeks vs Turks
    April 15
    July 27 and 28 - Greeks vs Turks near Samos
    September 10 and 11 - Greeks vs Turks near Mitylene
    October 7 (6?) - Greeks vs Turks in Aegean Sea (?)
    1827 September 29 - Greeks vs Turks in Salona Bay
    October 20 Navarino - British/French/Russian squadrons, under Admirals Codrington, de Rigny, and Geiden, destroy Turkish/Egyptian/Tunisian fleet of Tahir Pasha off south-west Greece
    1828 January 31 - British and French defeat Greek pirates at Grambusa
    June 9 (May 26 OS) - Russians defeat Turks near Braila (Russo-Turkish War)

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    1700; Swedish Naval Raid on Archangelsk.

    I´ve forgotten date, year and place, but an action took place between a Swedish frigate and six british ships-of-the-line and a frigate, pre 1715, which lasted for hours.

    A similar British pirate raid on four Swedish destroyers in WW2, almost made Sweden join the Axis!
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    Battle of Assaye

    British Empire - Maratha Empire, September 23, 1803, Assaye, India.

    Arthur Wellesley later the Iron Duke of Wellington, Fought in his own words, The Hardest battle he'd ever commanded. Outnumbered and out gunned by at least 4 to 1, Wellesley proved on the battle field that he was the Greatest Military Commander thats ever lived. Instead of awaiting for the obvious onslaught he attacked the Maratha lines and broke them, Giving the British the Jewel in the Crown and complete utter control over all of India.

    I can't wait to steer the Iron Duke into the War of 1812 also, If thats going to be on the game, Give the yanks something more than Mercenaries for once

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    I agree with Assaye, but you missed out the use of the ford that "didn't exist". Prior to the battle the British advanced to meet the Marathas who had a defensive line behind a ford. Using his observation, Wellington decided that there must be another ford further up the river, despite the native guides being adamant that there wasn't.

    Long story short, the British army crossed the ford and the whole Maratha army had to redeploy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mailman653
    New Orleans
    Really? This battle was very one-sided, the British attacked a heavily entrenched/barricaded/fortified position head on with enemy cannon on each of their flanks. No soldier, no matter how good, could have got to the American lines AND routed them. So as the Americans the only thing you would have to do is sit and watch. Now unless you want to be the British then you could take Pakenham's suicidal and naiive tactics out of the equation and use your vastly superior Highlanders to engage the Americans in open battle somewhere else along the lines. However, this defies the 'point' of New Orleans because Jackson knew his army stood no chance against the veteran British in this sort of stand up fight.

    So frankly I can't see New Orleans working as a challenging or even entertaining battle.

    Queenston Heights might be a better choice, because after all, this battle pretty much decided whether or not Canada (British North America) would be dissolved into the USA.

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    To counter –balance my English friends and their enthusiasm for a lost war:
    Battle of Formigny (1450) and of course Castillon (1453), where the advantage of the long bow was definitely cancelled…

    Battle of Ticonderoga 1758: 15,000 British and American Provincials. Around 3,600 French regular troops with a few Canadian provincials.
    Winner: the French drove back the British/American attack, inflicting heavy losses.
    The American provincials lost 350 killed and wounded. The British battalions lost 1,600 killed and wounded. The French casualties were around 350 killed and wounded.
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    The Battle of Chesma (1770) between the Russians and Turks. Extremely important naval battle and gave the Russians control of the Aegean. Unfortunately, it will be impossible to portray accurately unless CA decides to include fireships. The battle of Athos (1807) in which the Russians defeated the Turkish navy would also be very good to include.
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    Quote Originally Posted by penguinking
    Unfortunately, it will be impossible to portray accurately unless CA decides to include fireships.
    Fireships would be cool

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    Definitely the Battle of the plains of Abraham, Battle of the Monongehela, and The Battle of Quiberon(?). Aslo Waterloo of course and any Revolutionary battles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus
    To counter –balance my English friends and their enthusiasm for a lost war:
    Battle of Formigny (1450) and of course Castillon (1453), where the advantage of the long bow was definitely cancelled…

    Battle of Ticonderoga 1758: 15,000 British and American Provincials. Around 3,600 French regular troops with a few Canadian provincials.
    Winner: the French drove back the British/American attack, inflicting heavy losses.
    The American provincials lost 350 killed and wounded. The British battalions lost 1,600 killed and wounded. The French casualties were around 350 killed and wounded.
    What have those medieval battles got to do with Empire: Total War? Or was English/British battlefield dominance getting in your pants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim
    A similar British pirate raid on four Swedish destroyers in WW2, almost made Sweden join the Axis!
    Well, thank heavens Sweden didn't abandon its "neutrality"

    Battle of Ticonderoga 1758: 15,000 British and American Provincials. Around 3,600 French regular troops with a few Canadian provincials.
    Winner: the French drove back the British/American attack, inflicting heavy losses.
    The American provincials lost 350 killed and wounded. The British battalions lost 1,600 killed and wounded. The French casualties were around 350 killed and wounded.
    He, he, it all makes the final victories more sweet. Let's not talk about Quebec eh?
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    Better yet, why don't we talk about historical battles we'd like to see in Empire.
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    I want to see some of the american revolution,The battle of cowpens i think would be interesting to play with since it was strategically diffrent then most american revolutionary battles.
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    The Battle of Maida

    Fought in Italy on 4th July 1806 an exclusively British force defeats a First French Empire force made up of Poles, Swiss and French troops. Plenty of skirmishing during the day and then a 15 minute scrap at bayonet point at the climax. It ended in a decisive British victory but Stuarts little expeditionary force might be considered wise not to have followed up on the success.

    Maida, although small, provided a much needed morale boost to the heavily strained 3rd Coalition where Russia and Austria were suffering some horrendous defeats to that short fat Corsican.

    The Battle of Cryslers Farm

    An assortment of 800 British Regulars and Militia defeat near 8,000 US troops along the St. Lawrence River in Ontario. This battle would be 'Very Hard' as the British infact attacked and routed the US force while outnumbered roughly 7 to 1. No small feat.


    The trouble is with the really epic battles like Salamanca, Borodino, Morongo and all them is that you can only get about 6,000 troops on screen and then its totally unplayable.
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