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    Didn't know that much about Danish Archaeology. Sakkura what do you know about the Ringkøbing Museum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacq
    Didn't know that much about Danish Archaeology. Sakkura what do you know about the Ringkøbing Museum?
    I didn't know much about it except it's very small. I checked their website and they seem to have a focus on Germanic Iron Age in general, with a dig near Ringkøbing in the winter 2006/7 with participation from archaeologists from Aarhus University (that's my university )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakkura
    Aarhus University (that's my university )
    thats Artus in east jutland, right? They have a good anthro department. Artus' an old viking town, right?

    don't know Danish, but know german. surprised how similar Danish is to english. i could read most of their webpage.

    their webpage said they've conducted excavations at these sites:
    (1) Lyngsmose:
    (2) Stenaldervej:
    (3) Jernaldervej

    all in west Jutland right? I found their locations on the map.
    on their webpage i couldn't find what they dated these to.
    based on their architectural plans, i'm assuming pre-roman iron-age.
    did their webpage say?
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    Yeah, it's Århus in eastern Jutland. Known as Aros to the vikings

    1. Lyngsmose (=heather bog) is located 10 kilometers northeast of Ringkøbing. (which is on the western coast of Jutland).
    The site was a settlement with a moat which was bristling with pointed stakes. The settlement consisted of 15 longhouses (housing both animals and humans under one roof) and two smaller houses. The settlement is dated to around 100 BC.
    There's an aerial photo in the pdf file (marked fig. 11) that shows the outline of that moat, amazing that it's visible even after thousands of years.

    2. Stenaldervej (=stone age road) is a road in the northern part of Ringkøbing itself. I guess the archaeological dig came about when the town was about to expand.
    Settlement dated to younger Roman iron age and older Germanic iron age (200-550 AD) based on pottery and the form of the houses.

    3. Jernaldervej (=iron age road) is basically right next to Stenaldervej. The houses there are dated to 600-800 AD, so the end of the Germanic iron age and the beginning of the viking age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakkura
    Yeah, it's Århus in eastern Jutland. Known as Aros to the vikings

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    much thanks

    It seems you Danes have investigated a relatively large number of Iron-Age sites.
    This is interesting, as the domestic architecture, which is a rather conservative cultural trait, appears consistent throughout the pre-roman (cimbric) iron-, and germanic iron ages. This type was used from Holland to Jutland. These pre-roman/germanic iron age longhouses were replaced, by norse types.
    There's something strange going on here?
    This is going to take some time to write up.
    i'll get back to ya.

    Also Lyngsmose, the lyngs, as in heather, is similar to Lungus, the name recorded for a Cimbric king. it seems that their kings took, as a title, the name of the tribe they ruled. Maybe there was an unrecorded Cimbric subtribe called the Lunges that occupied the Ringkøbing area?
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    When parts of Jutland were cleared of wood (it had originally been almost fully forested), the landscape usually ended up as heathland, basically an expanse of little heather shrubs and the like. I guess this would be especially likely to happen around population centers. So it might make sense that peoples or rulers in Jutland somehow became associated with heather (lungus/lyng). At least the idea sounds cool in theory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sakkura
    heather (lungus/lyng). At least the idea sounds cool in theory
    Sakkura,
    something about that Lung. Could the word 'Lung' be from the Norse 'Lung' which was a possible loan word from latin ([navis]-Longa; war-ship) or welsh (Llong-Longâ; ship). Also Gaelic Long-ship. Could this be an adapted Cimbic word for ship to the Danish word for a low bush? Also in Welsh Llwyn-mawn means bush bog.

    I know the ON words for ship:

    Eik
    Gjalfrmarr
    Kjoll
    Knorr
    skip

    I know the ON used eik for both ship and tree. So this lung may be from latin or some form of Kelt, at first Lyngsmose possible Lunges-moss (Moss was sometimes used for Peat) meaning ship- or boat-bog? Boats have been found in Denmark's bogs, right?

    right i see now

    Sten-alder-vej
    stone-auld(scotts [a form of OE still used in lowland scotland] old or older)-way
    Jern-alder-vej
    iron-auld(er)-way

    ps- I fixed the beowulf on page 3 of this thread
    Last edited by cmacq; 11-06-2007 at 04:21.
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