Apeleutheroi - Holy crap.

[Dayve]

Playing as the Romani (as always) i just had Mediolanum spontaneously revolt to the Aediu, kicking out my governor and garrison units and filling the entire city up with 20 units of Eleutheroi (Freed slaves) with no experience but gold armour and silver weapon upgrades. I sent my faction leader and his full legion, who just happened to be passing through the region on their way to relieve the legion that just captured Massilia and needed retraining. The Eleutheroi have 7 armour and 5 (or 6) weapon ratings, so obviously i envisioned a quick battle with about 1/4 - 1/3 casualties, and a nice fat treasury full of loot when i slaughter the population for rebelling.

Here's where the holy crap bit comes in. I send in two siege towers and order my two units of auxiliaries up to the walls, i don't remember the unit names but they are the ones who wear a white robe and fight with a spear and large shield, they have around 17 armour and 15 attack ratings. Half of each unit was decimated by rocks that the Eleutheroi throw down at them, the remaining 50% of each unit is decimated as soon as it hits the walls in less than 30 seconds. The second two units of auxiliary units suffer the same fate, save for 1 soldier out of the 244 that escaped the walls in a panic. Next i send both units of Hastati in my legion who suffer massive losses before even reaching the bottom of the siege tower, and then suffer the exact same fate as the auxilia before them.

At one last attempt i send the triarii who suffer no missile fire as the slaves have now run out of rocks, but as with the other units they are massacred in less than 30 seconds. To spare my principes a certain fate i decide to withdraw the rest of my army to suck up some reinforcements from the surrounding towns and attack again. My faction leader has lost a command star for the embarrasment his legion suffered at the hands of rebellious slaves , and has become a drunkard.

The very embarrasing end result...


Look what they did to my legion.

[mighty_rome]

It's a known bug. Apeleutheroi have a lethality rating that is over 20 times higher than what it was supposed to be.

bovi has a fix for it here https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=93820

The title of the thread is "1.0 fixes you should try before posting" :)

[Dayve]

Ah, i wasn't complaining, just thought i'd post. I love reading little stories like the one i posted and assumed everybody else did too. Will that fix work with saved games or will i have to start a new one?

[Pharnakes]

Almost certinately save game compatible, and also I love reading little things like this as much as you do Dayve, it is things like this that truely make eb a comunity, not just a bunch of nerds that happen to play the same game.

[bovi]

It's optional and not important, because it will only rarely cause problems for people. Any missile unit will massacre them regardless of their lethality. It's unsupported because I don't care to spend time to help those who are unable to find the right folder to put it in, when it's not important.

[mcantu]

Is there any way to limit the number of Apeleutheroi units that are spawned? I just had a 20 unit stack of them come after me with gold chevrons and and weapon/shield upgrades

[Tarkus]

It's optional and not important, because it will only rarely cause problems for people. Any missile unit will massacre them regardless of their lethality. It's unsupported because I don't care to spend time to help those who are unable to find the right folder to put it in, when it's not important.

Thanks, bovi...that answers it precisely. If the fix creates a more realistic situation, I'm all over it and will download this evening!

[Yes, I'm at work -- just one of the millions of hours of American business productivity lost to the Internet...!!!]

[Tarkus]

Bovi lists the Apeleutheroi fix in the 1.0 fixes thread as "optional", "not important at all" and "unsupported".

Based on the discussion here, this fix (thanks, Bovi!!) sounds quite the opposite! What say you, Bovi?