Khazar_Dahvos 13:53 11-01-2007
what does the 7 and 21 stand for?
I was asking the mic levels because I was trying to figure out what foreign troops I wanted to build for example bosporian archers (sp) elite thracian rhomphai and the scordici elite troops so I wanted to know where and what type of gov I need to build in order to get them so I was looking at the recruitment guide.

and I appreciate the reply about the oppida...... I was asking the question because I did not see it in my building browser.
Watchman 16:17 11-01-2007
The building browser sucks. Damn near the only thing it's good for in EB is checking out the bonuses of higher-level temples.
Basic rule of thumb with the MICs is that the higher the "number" of your gov type (ie. the looser the region is affiliated with your empire proper) the higher the limit on the Regional MICs you can build, and the lower the limit on your Factional MICs. And vice versa. IIRC with most factions you can't actually even build Factional MICs beyond the first level with govs 3 and 4...
And when in doubt quicksave and the add_money and process_cq <settlement> cheats are your friend for finding out the recruitement potentials of a province.
Khazar_Dahvos 20:14 11-01-2007
So what do I need in order to build the oppida in my capital? mind you I am only 5 turns into the game. Does it need any prerequisets (Sp) or do I just need to build the next available wall and or wait for my population to grow?
P.S. Thanks watchman for the reply
Watchman 22:33 11-01-2007
Originally Posted by Khazar_Dahvos:
So what do I need in order to build the oppida in my capital? mind you I am only 5 turns into the game. Does it need any prerequisets (Sp) or do I just need to build the next available wall and or wait for my population to grow?
You need a large enough settlement - "minor city" or thereabouts, I think. Same as stone walls in general.
Originally Posted by Pharnakes:
And it doesn't even do that, the highest level isn't included.
True enough, but IMHO you get a decent enough general idea of what to expect from the top level through the browser. It's useful for deciding what temple line suits your long-term plans for the town in question methinks.
Which said, way back in 0.8x the first time I realized the top level of those morale-boosting war-goddess temples actually netted troops trained in the settlement an exp level I pretty much had to change my underwear...
Pharnakes 20:25 11-01-2007
Originally Posted by Watchman:
The building browser sucks. Damn near the only thing it's good for in EB is checking out the bonuses of higher-level temples.
And it doesn't even do that, the highest level isn't included.
Yes but JMRC's building trees are in the documentation folder and definitely worth checking out.
Originally Posted by Redmeth:
Yes but JMRC's building trees are in the documentation folder and definitely worth checking out.
True, but that doesn't show the bonuses the temple types give.
You need level 4 local MIC in the Thracian provinces to get Rhomphiaphori.
Bosphoran Archer guys need level 3 Regional MIC in the Bosphoran cities.
Both are awesome :D
In the recruitment viewer 7 = local, 21 = regional.
Khazar_Dahvos 02:12 11-02-2007
hey thanks hoom but what type of goverments do I need to install. For example whats gov system should I have in thraikia hypertera for the elite rhomphai, what gov should I install in mikra skythia for bosphorian archers and last but not least what gov do I need to have in scourcouw for the scordisci elite infantry. So what goverments should I have to get these troops and benifit my nation the most. Also do I need some type of reform to get the scordisci (just asking because I will build both the native and the regional MIC up all the way I just want to know the type of gov to install please
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