EB2: The Big Question

[iceman7291]

When can we expect to start seeing previews. I practically get a hard on from just the name EB2. Im going to need my weekly fix of previews pretty soon. So please help me and the other addicts out, and get them previews a flowin.

[Malik of Sindh]

Im sure that you will not get your fix of previews anytime soon.Im not even sure they have strated this mod already.

[I Am Herenow]

Well, from various posts on the forums here and there, some work does seem to have already been done.

[iceman7291]

Well, another thing I really wnat to know, is this game being made for regular Med2 or Kingdoms, I really hope its being made for Kingdoms because of the extra features. Ive seen discusions about this but have never seen a definate answer. So, Med2 or Kingdoms?

[Malik of Sindh]

Its for Kingdoms ,which I don't have.Ill go kill myself now.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

99.9% sure it is going to be on Kingdoms.

As for previews, there probably won't be any in game screen shots or anything any time soon. There has been two Steles released that are sort of previews. With the work on v1.0, there hasn't been any more of these, but they will continue some time soon.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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99.9% sure it is going to be on Kingdoms.

That's bad news. Kingdoms comes with malware copy protection, which remains even after the uninstall. If EB2 comes for Kingdoms, then goodbye from me, sorry. Please don't make it for Kingdoms unless CA release a cleaning patch, which is very much unlikely.
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[Bonny]

Kingdoms comes with malware copy protection, which remains even after the uninstall.

what does this mean?

[iceman7291]

99.9% sure it is going to be on Kingdoms.

Thats so good to hear, thank you. If its going to be for regular Med Ill be pissed because youll be able to do a lot more with kingdoms and that will mkae the game so much better.

[lord_eru]

what does this mean?

Kingdoms uses SecuROM as its copy-protection, the newest version of which installs a rootkit.

[Bellum]

Its for Kingdoms ,which I don't have.Ill go kill myself now.

You have about a 400 years to get it before release.

[Mouzafphaerre]

what does this mean?

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This. Also in here and here.

Although there is no consensus, a reasonable part of the TW fanbase have decided to keep away from Kingdoms.

That aside, not basing the original mod on an expansion, which requires purchasing two products, thus paying twice, was a very fair and wise decision. Considering also that Kingdoms doesn't have as good a reputation as BI at least among the old timers, following the same path with the new mod will be even fairer and wiser.

Please think about it guys.
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[Foot]

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This. Also in here and here.

Although there is no consensus, a reasonable part of the TW fanbase have decided to keep away from Kingdoms.

That aside, not basing the original mod on an expansion, which requires purchasing two products, thus paying twice, was a very fair and wise decision. Considering also that Kingdoms doesn't have as good a reputation as BI at least among the old timers, following the same path with the new mod will be even fairer and wiser.

Please think about it guys.
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Not going to happen. Kingdoms has been decided on for very many different reasons, not least because permanent forts would be fantastic, und also the possibility to restrict units based upon "religion".

Anyway, by the time EB2 is released Kingdoms will be about a fiver in a shop. So no worries.

Foot

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Sad decision indeed because even if the price drops town to $1 SecuRom will be there, as it seems. I won't let any malware willingly on my computer, even for the sake of EB, nor would many others. Sorry...
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[iceman7291]

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Sad decision indeed because even if the price drops town to $1 SecuRom will be there, as it seems. I won't let any malware willingly on my computer, even for the sake of EB, nor would many others. Sorry...
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What are you talking about?! Kingdoms has done NOTHING to harm my computer and EVERYONE should get it, its just a game. Not to sound harsh or anything, cause I know that admins of this forum dont like inappropriate behavior. I am gratefull that they are making it for kingdoms cause it is the best TW game released yet. I havent even touched regular Med since I got Kingdoms, the very second it was put on the shelves at my local Gamestop.

[Foot]

WTF are you talking about?! Kingdoms has done NOTHING to harm my computer and EVERYONE should get it, its just a fucking game. Not to sound harsh or anything, cause I know that admins of this forum dont like inappropriate behavior, but you sound like an asshole. I am gratefull that they are making it for kingdoms cause it is the best damn TW game released yet. I havent even touched regular Med since I got Kingdoms, the very second it was put on the shelves at my local Gamestop.

fanboy much?

Do you know about SecuROM? You should do as Kingdoms installed it on your computer without you knowing about it.

Foot

[Steppe Merc]

That's really messed up. However, are you able to remove it? It lists all of the files there, you can just delete correct? Or is it one of those tricky ones that has files all over the place?

[antisocialmunky]

Its the tricky, download-app-to-delete-undeleteable-registry-entry type of thing.

[Elthore]

wow, what a piece of filthy malware. Nasty!

anyone interested in EB2 should read up on Securom included with Kingdoms. It is absolute trash.

[iceman7291]

I think that everyone should stop bitching so much, it has done nothing to my comp and believe me I would know if it has. And anyway, there is a bunch of prgrams made for removing it, so there is no reason not to get Kingdoms.

[Elthore]

ethics

[Mouzafphaerre]

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iceman7291 are you talking about?! Kingdoms has done NOTHING to harm my computer and EVERYONE should get it, its just a iceman7291 game. Not to sound harsh or anything, cause I know that admins of this forum dont like inappropriate behavior, but you sound like an iceman7291.

Not only a fanboy but a troll. I hope the pollution caused by your existence won't last long.
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[Xehh II]

I don't think I'd get EB2 if it's for Kingdoms either.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

I'm confused, other then preventing you from using illegal copies of the game and putting something on your computer that you didn't ask for, what does this do that is so evil?

[Geoffrey S]

The latter point I find bad enough, but in theory (and I'll admit I know little about this) it allows for remote access to ones computer without the users knowledge.

[Meneldil]

I'm confused, other then preventing you from using illegal copies of the game and putting something on your computer that you didn't ask for, what does this do that is so evil?

That's pretty much self-explanatory. The fact that removing it is extremely tedious is another problem aswell.
It also creates issues if you're using some legal programs such as Deamontools, AVG and what not.

And don't get me started on the fact that paying consummers are always getting screwed up by this kind of copy-protection thingie (ie. starforce, Bioshock), while people who get the game illegaly will solve the issue in 5 min. So yeah, I won't be buying Kingdoms, and thus, won't be playing EB2, at least until the release a patch to get rid of securom (which will likely never happens).

[Zaknafien]

seems sort of ridiculous. who really cares if you cant make illegal copies? unless its how you earn a living, it seems like NOT a big deal at all.

[Malik of Sindh]

No EB2 for me

[antisocialmunky]

I'm confused, other then preventing you from using illegal copies of the game and putting something on your computer that you didn't ask for, what does this do that is so evil?

It doesn't stop people from making illegal copies, just makes it marginally harder for those who do and it still takes the same amount of time for everyone else to google the file to do so. '_' Which makes it just irritate honest computer literate people and makes it more attractive for those people to get the cracked version to avoid dealing with crappy DRM.

[Elminster12]

It does seem futile and faintly hostile, but if all you need is an application to remove it for you, all that needs to happen is for said application to be provided and everyone wins.