Historians of EB Team UNITE!!

**gran_guitarra** · 10-30-2007, 23:36

Okay, two questions for the historical know-it alls of the EB team (no disrespect intended).

#1:
I've run across several mention of Rhodian slingers as being incredibly good and far beyond any normal Hellenic slingers, but they are all well before the time period. During the period that the mod is set, were Rhodians any better than your average Hellenic Slinger?

#2:
Okay, we have Hetairoi who are the Companions of the King. We have the Pezhetairoi who were the Foot Companions. So can anyone tell me what the feth are Asthetairoi?

**Sarcasm** · 10-31-2007, 00:00

1. Yes.

2. Elite Pezhetairoi

**Pharnakes** · 10-31-2007, 00:02

2. What's it mean then (literaly).

**Landwalker** · 10-31-2007, 01:47

Originally Posted by Pharnakes

2. What's it mean then (literaly).

ασθεταιροι probably means something akin to "Citizen companions". Αστος means "a townsman, citizen", and obviously εταιροs is "companion". (Πεζεταιροι, by the same token, is a combination of "foot" and "companion", so you get the general idea).

Cheers.

**keravnos** · 10-31-2007, 01:53

Exactly.
For Rhodian slingers, we are considering them. You might also want to research pisidian slingers. Or the Syracuse slingers that Hiero sent to aid the Romani in the First Punic war, IIRC. There were many territories that were famous for their slingers. As I said before Rhodians are under consideration.

**gran_guitarra** · 10-31-2007, 02:33

Okay, thank you for the information.

But,
if the Asthetairoi were created to combat the rise of Rome and were merely a super heavy phalanx, why are there mentions of them fighting in Alexander's campaigns?

**gran_guitarra** · 10-31-2007, 00:07

Originally Posted by Sarcasm

1. Yes.

2. Elite Pezhetairoi

Then what the heck are the Argyraspidai?

and why aren't Rhodian slingers available as mercenaries/regionals in Rhodos?

**NeoSpartan** · 10-31-2007, 00:33

hum... re-read the descriptions Gran Guitarra

very quickly:
The Pezhetairoi are proffecional pike men, men who are trained, drilled, & disiplined. They are all land owners with voting rights. The Asthetairoi are reformed pezhetaroi brough up by the Makedonian king to stem the rise of Rome, they wear chainmail instead of linothorax and they are made up of a larger pool of people than the original. The Argyraspidai are the most expirienced of the pezhetairoi are wealthier and have more armor.

i encourage u to reread it to get more details

**Pharnakes** · 10-31-2007, 01:22

So the Hysteroi pezhetairoi are gone from eb1.0?

**gran_guitarra** · 10-31-2007, 01:26

I thought those were the Hysteroi Pezhetairoi.

And if they were created to check the rise of Rome, how come there are mentions of them being used by ALEXANER THE GREAT in his campaigns?

and why no Rhodian slingers if they were so much better than the average Hellenic SLinger in the time period?