Oldest suitor

[Gazius]

What's the oldest suitor you've ever seen?


As soon as they consumate the marriage he's dead!

[Xehh II]

I had a 60 year old go after a 14 year old daughter.

[Dayve]

It was quite common in those days... Marriage wasn't something done out of love, it was done for money and political reasons.

[Mouzafphaerre]

It was quite common in those days... Marriage wasn't something done out of love, it was done for money and political reasons.

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Those days: ca. 2007 AD?
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[Gazius]

Indeed, and it's still done today, but my point was that, how often do you see that old of a suitor in RTW. Not very from personal experience. I wasn't commenting on anything else.

What's the maximum age anyhow?

[Dayve]

Of course it's still done today... not much though, these days most people marry for love. Or puppy love, whatever.

I don't get really old suitors... I think the oldest i ever got was like 40. I do see 50 year old family members married to 13 year old girls sometimes though.

[Folgore]

It was quite common in those days... Marriage wasn't something done out of love, it was done for money and political reasons.

Exactly. This become very apparent when taking a closer look at the relations between the Diadochi. Seleucos Nikator for example, his second wife (Stratonike) was the daughter of Demetrios (son of Antigonos Monophthalmos). He was 56 at the time of the marriage, she only 17. (This marriage was only one or two years after the battle of Ipsus, in which Seleucos defeated Antigonos (and Demetrios) and in which Antigonos was killed.) After Seleucos' death his son (Antiochos Soter) married Stratonike (his stepmother).
Much stranger though are the relations between the Ptolemaioi. To name one example, Ptolemaios II Philadelphos. He was first married to Arsinoe I, daughter of Lysimachos. After Lysimachos' death he married his wife, Arsinoe II, his own sister! (His nickname Philadelphos means sister-lover.) If you take a closer look at the rest of the Ptolemaioi you'll notice a lot more Philadelphoses. (apparenly it's some sort of Egyptian custom to marry one's sister...)

[different_13]

It's to ensure the succession.
Royal blood was matrilineal.

That's why any new king would always marry a royal princess (usually either the previous pharaoh's wife, or one of his sisters ((or even other female relatives, if there were no sisters)).

[russia almighty]

I wonder how bad the rare dieases were in the Ptolemaic dynasty ?


Anyway my dudes have a tendency to like older women . I have a 20 year old with a 45 year old wife .

[Mouzafphaerre]

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His nickname Philadelphos means sister-lover.

AFAIK it was Arsinoë, his sister-wife, whom he posthumously deified with the cognomen "brother-lover" (Φιλάδελφος) but it stuck to himself instead.
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[skuzzy]

I just got a 71 in my Makedonian campaign circa 209BC. You still got me beat though. He was Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous though although I can all three of those must have declined a bit at that age :)

[Strategy]

Exactly. This become very apparent when taking a closer look at the relations between the Diadochi. Seleucos Nikator for example, his second wife (Stratonike) was the daughter of Demetrios (son of Antigonos Monophthalmos). He was 56 at the time of the marriage, she only 17. (This marriage was only one or two years after the battle of Ipsus, in which Seleucos defeated Antigonos (and Demetrios) and in which Antigonos was killed.) After Seleucos' death his son (Antiochos Soter) married Stratonike (his stepmother).

Actually, the story is much better. Seleukos and Stratonike had a daughter (Phila); and the marriage between Antiochos and Stratonike occured while Seleukos was still very much alive. Seleukos then sent Antiochos off to govern the eastern provinces. The Seleukos-Stratonike-Antiochos marriage triangle was a well-loved source of material for hellenistic authors and playwrights.

[Underhand]

As soon as they consumate the marriage he's dead!

73 and not even feeling his age? That's one spry OAP. Although on the other hand, he's still green and a bit of a coward. Start him off as a military tribune and see if he lasts out the term

[Tellos Athenaios]

What's the oldest suitor you've ever seen?


As soon as they consumate the marriage he's dead!

You know, he doesn't look that old...

Yeah well, most suitors get dimissed by me for being a useless ignorant & uneducated idiot. No capacities & capabilities at all, those guys.

[bovi]

Unlike the children, of course, that are useless ignorant & uneducated idiots but can't be avoided . Anyone becomes useful with decent schooling, and the come-of-age ones have more time to do so though.

[gurakshun]

What's the oldest suitor you've ever seen?


As soon as they consumate the marriage he's dead!

I like how he cleverly takes a picture from the side and wears a great big helmet so you can't see how old and wrinkly his face really is

[CaesarAugustus]

Lol poor Lepida.... I sometimes will reject the suitor if I feel he is too old, evn if he is an ok general. It just feels wrong marrying 40-somethings to 14 year olds.

[Olaf The Great]

The emperor, has married a horse.

[Leão magno]

I like how he cleverly takes a picture from the side and wears a great big helmet so you can't see how old and wrinkly his face really is

Not only that, he also got a real fine artist to portrait him!!!!

[Maksimus]

My first faction leader from my Armenia VH campaig died at age 74... And he had Level 6 expirience... fought many battles.. still I was very sad he pased away.. I miss his beautifull charges in fron of my army :(

[Leão magno]

Same for me in my campaing as Hay! he lived till he was 74 too and his heir lived till 73... what a good genetics is not it?

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

In my 0.81 Mak campaign all my generals died with exactly 62. A notably exception was only 64.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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[Germa]

Funny bringing this up today, was just playing for few hours and almost all suitors I got were older than 60 :D Oldest I think was 78 and second oldest 75 :D And yeah I didn't accept them just so they can die the next year on me :D

[pockettank]

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how can you be a skilled infantry commander and never seen a lick of battle in your life?

[Emperor Burakuku]

AA = Anti Aircraft Gun.

[Spvrrina Vestricivs]

how can you be a skilled infantry commander and never seen a lick of battle in your life?

Maybe he's spent all his time training infantry? I thought that the Green trait was about not having commanded in a battle? If so, he could have served as an NCO, or an infantry commander, just not a general.

[Pharnakes]

No, you don't have to lead to loss the green trait, at least I don't think you do. Anway, he could easily have learned the theory, if never put it to test.

AA = Anti Aircraft Gun

Did you only read half the thread?

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Green or blue she's got the girl (38 yo ). I can use a good infantry commander unless he dies before reaching the battlefield.
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