Oldest suitor

[Xehh II]

I had a 60 year old go after a 14 year old daughter.

[Dayve]

It was quite common in those days... Marriage wasn't something done out of love, it was done for money and political reasons.

[Mouzafphaerre]

It was quite common in those days... Marriage wasn't something done out of love, it was done for money and political reasons.

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Those days: ca. 2007 AD?
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[Gazius]

Indeed, and it's still done today, but my point was that, how often do you see that old of a suitor in RTW. Not very from personal experience. I wasn't commenting on anything else.

What's the maximum age anyhow?

[Dayve]

Of course it's still done today... not much though, these days most people marry for love. Or puppy love, whatever.

I don't get really old suitors... I think the oldest i ever got was like 40. I do see 50 year old family members married to 13 year old girls sometimes though.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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The oldest I remember appeared today in his 43 and got rejected, not because of his age.
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[Treverer]

A gent of 57 summers, if I remember well. And the lady was in the mid/late twenties. He was finally an acceptable character, after some 4 to 5 really bad, ugly, miserable and dull ones.

What's the maximum age anyhow?

I'd like to know the answer to that question too, and to the logical follow-up one: How does the AI determine a characters' death? Suren, there must be somewhere a little algorithm (spelling ?), checking his age and increasing the chance to die after getting older and older. What are the modificators?

The oldest character I once saw was 98 (a Scipiones, in vanilla RTW).

Yours, T.

[Folgore]

It was quite common in those days... Marriage wasn't something done out of love, it was done for money and political reasons.

Exactly. This become very apparent when taking a closer look at the relations between the Diadochi. Seleucos Nikator for example, his second wife (Stratonike) was the daughter of Demetrios (son of Antigonos Monophthalmos). He was 56 at the time of the marriage, she only 17. (This marriage was only one or two years after the battle of Ipsus, in which Seleucos defeated Antigonos (and Demetrios) and in which Antigonos was killed.) After Seleucos' death his son (Antiochos Soter) married Stratonike (his stepmother).
Much stranger though are the relations between the Ptolemaioi. To name one example, Ptolemaios II Philadelphos. He was first married to Arsinoe I, daughter of Lysimachos. After Lysimachos' death he married his wife, Arsinoe II, his own sister! (His nickname Philadelphos means sister-lover.) If you take a closer look at the rest of the Ptolemaioi you'll notice a lot more Philadelphoses. (apparenly it's some sort of Egyptian custom to marry one's sister...)

[different_13]

It's to ensure the succession.
Royal blood was matrilineal.

That's why any new king would always marry a royal princess (usually either the previous pharaoh's wife, or one of his sisters ((or even other female relatives, if there were no sisters)).

[russia almighty]

I wonder how bad the rare dieases were in the Ptolemaic dynasty ?


Anyway my dudes have a tendency to like older women . I have a 20 year old with a 45 year old wife .

[Mouzafphaerre]

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His nickname Philadelphos means sister-lover.

AFAIK it was Arsinoë, his sister-wife, whom he posthumously deified with the cognomen "brother-lover" (Φιλάδελφος) but it stuck to himself instead.
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[skuzzy]

I just got a 71 in my Makedonian campaign circa 209BC. You still got me beat though. He was Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous though although I can all three of those must have declined a bit at that age :)

[beatoangelico]

in 0.81 with Ptolemaioi one of the FM at the start is already in his 70s and he managed to stay alive until 81

[TWFanatic]

What I don't get is why they arrest a 17 year old for having oral sex with a fifteen year old, then let Larry King run free...the guy's marrying people 80 years younger than him!

But that's a different matter.

Has anyone ever had an FM remarry?

[Strategy]

Exactly. This become very apparent when taking a closer look at the relations between the Diadochi. Seleucos Nikator for example, his second wife (Stratonike) was the daughter of Demetrios (son of Antigonos Monophthalmos). He was 56 at the time of the marriage, she only 17. (This marriage was only one or two years after the battle of Ipsus, in which Seleucos defeated Antigonos (and Demetrios) and in which Antigonos was killed.) After Seleucos' death his son (Antiochos Soter) married Stratonike (his stepmother).

Actually, the story is much better. Seleukos and Stratonike had a daughter (Phila); and the marriage between Antiochos and Stratonike occured while Seleukos was still very much alive. Seleukos then sent Antiochos off to govern the eastern provinces. The Seleukos-Stratonike-Antiochos marriage triangle was a well-loved source of material for hellenistic authors and playwrights.