query regarding Bosphorian archers

[Elthore]

why are they called Bosphorian when the Bosphorus is 500km further to the south, with no relation to the Scythian lands?

[Malik of Sindh]

I don't get it.Have you heard of a kindom called Bosphorus,in crimea?

[Elthore]

nope...

so that kingdom predates the Bosphorus straits, in name?

[Elthore]

also, a quick internet search shows that the orgin of Bosphorus might be Greek for 'ox-strait' or Thracian for something glowing.

[Malik of Sindh]

Check the map of Asia ton barbaron,link is in my sig.It shows position of Bosphorus,these archers were pretty good troops of KoC Bosphorus.

[Elthore]

ahh, the generally accepted English spelling for that Crimean kingdom seems to be Bosporan. Clearly derived from the same Greek word however, meaning strait. I used to live in Istanbul, so...a little confused when I saw Bosphoran troops coming from Scythia. I knew about the later use of Bosporan(Crimean one) troops by the Kiev-Rus, but was not aware that the same people were around in ancient times. Good stuff.

[L.C.Cinna]

There is a so called "Thracian Bosporus" which is the one at Byzantion and the "Cimmerian Bosporus" which is the Strait of Kertch.

[keravnos]

why are they called Bosphorian when the Bosphorus is 500km further to the south, with no relation to the Scythian lands?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosporan_Kingdom

Even if the correct transliteration would be Bosphoran

[Elthore]

http://www.pontos.dk/research/ra_7
theres another good link

[L.C.Cinna]

Even if the correct transliteration would be Bosphoran

hmmm it should actually be Bosporan without h because the greek word is written with Π (pi) not with Φ (phi)...

[Malik of Sindh]

Im pretty sure its Bosphorus.Anyway,wikipedia says it can be called both.

[Megas Methuselah]

Wikipedia isn't God...

[pezhetairoi]

For a generally accepted spelling, I sure have never seen Bosporan as a spelling until it was posted on this thread. I've always known it as Bosphorus.

[Pharnakes]

Well, Keravnos says its Bosphorus, therfore it is. The EB gods have spoken!

[Sakkura]

Wikipedia isn't God...

But the other link is from a respected university.

[pseudocaesar]

Roma Surrectum has the Kingdom of Cimmerian Bosporus in it! :P Nothing like shameless advertising in another mods forum.

[hoom]

Spelling aside, if you can train them then do!

[keravnos]

Well, Keravnos says its Bosphorus, therfore it is. The EB gods have spoken!

Thanks a lot, but...
Seriously guys, don't!

-we 're all friends here,
-none is above all others,
-none is infallible

I pride myself not in being correct all the time, but in fixing what I did wrong.

Let me look into this and I will start a thread later as to why it should be Bosporan or Bosphoran.

I fear that without meaning to, I have helped a "simple mistake" keep on living, much like the "hoplon" shield, which never existed. (It is "aspis" shield, "hoplon"=weapon(generic name for any weapon)

[Sakkura]

I fear that without meaning to, I have helped a "simple mistake" keep on living, much like the "hoplon" shield, which never existed. (It is "aspis" shield, "hoplon"=weapon(generic name for any weapon)

Innit like a "one size fits all" description for all tools of war, including weapons, shields and perhaps even armor? That's the quarterpounder explanation I heard anyhow

[Pharnakes]

Thanks a lot, but...
Seriously guys, don't!

-we 're all friends here,
-none is above all others,
-none is infallible

I pride myself not in being correct all the time, but in fixing what I did wrong.

Let me look into this and I will start a thread later as to why it should be Bosporan or Bosphoran.

I fear that without meaning to, I have helped a "simple mistake" keep on living, much like the "hoplon" shield, which never existed. (It is "aspis" shield, "hoplon"=weapon(generic name for any weapon)

You already explained it in the AtB thread, I think.

[L.C.Cinna]

Let me look into this and I will start a thread later as to why it should be Bosporan or Bosphoran.

would be interesting. i see no reason to use a "ph" although some, like english and french speakers, use it...

the original surely doesn't.