anyone got Carthaginian reform yet?

[Sarkiss]

its 217 and there are 5 integraded barracks in required cities plus i do control 3 settlements from the requirement list. still nothing. just curious.

[Leão magno]

Wait until 200 BC build up your cities, there is a thread describing all necessary reforms buildings, here is a copy of the list:

Here are the reform conditions:


Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Quote:
; Check counters are >= 5 and >= 3 or 200BC, if true set counter 1, if false set counters 0
monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionType egypt
and I_TurnNumber >= 148
and I_CompareCounter Carthage_Reforms = 0

if I_TurnNumber >= 288

console_command create_building Kart-Hadast "carthage1"
console_command create_building Atiqa "carthage1"
console_command create_building Gader "carthage1"
console_command create_building Mastia "carthage1"
console_command create_building Bocchoris "carthage1"
console_command create_building Sala "carthage1"
console_command create_building Lixus "carthage1"
console_command create_building Adrumeto "carthage1"
console_command create_building Lilibeo "carthage1"
console_command create_building Lepki "carthage1"
console_command create_building Karali "carthage1"
set_counter Carthage_Reforms 1

end_if

if I_CompareCounter Carthage_Reformsinc1 >= 5
and I_CompareCounter Carthage_Reformsinc2 >= 3

console_command create_building Kart-Hadast "carthage1"
console_command create_building Atiqa "carthage1"
console_command create_building Gader "carthage1"
console_command create_building Mastia "carthage1"
console_command create_building Bocchoris "carthage1"
console_command create_building Sala "carthage1"
console_command create_building Lixus "carthage1"
console_command create_building Adrumeto "carthage1"
console_command create_building Lilibeo "carthage1"
console_command create_building Lepki "carthage1"
console_command create_building Karali "carthage1"
set_counter Carthage_Reforms 1

end_if

if I_CompareCounter Carthage_Reforms < 1
set_counter Carthage_Reformsinc1 0
set_counter Carthage_Reformsinc2 0
end_if
end_monitor


The reforms are triggered when it is past 235 BC and the two check conditions have been met OR when 200 BC rolls in without check conditions.

The first check counter checks for the presence of a top level NATIVE MIC in settlements, the second checks for ownership of provinces in Italy, Iberia etc.


Hope that helps.

Cheers

[overweightninja]

Ah looks like my post, that was before they updated the FAQ I think :)
The post above (and without looking I think in the whole thread) does not refer to the specific settlements needed though. For more specific info

Cheers

PS
Huray got to use the FAQ smiley! *Feels slightly elitist*

[dbarger58]

Is there anyway to bumb up the reforms and make them happen earlier

[HasdrubalBarca]

i dont understand.
why do we have to build lvl 5 local MIC in Carthage itself???
that would require destroying the homeland gov and creating/dealing with a lvl 4 gov and client ruler.

[Sarkiss]

i dont understand.
why do we have to build lvl 5 local MIC in Carthage itself???
that would require destroying the homeland gov and creating/dealing with a lvl 4 gov and client ruler.

i dont think we need. Carthage itself is not listed. i figured what my issue was, i took citadel for the highest level of barrack which it is not, the integrated barracks are. so i got 2 in the right cities (afaik Carthage, Lilibeo dont count) and if im right, there should be at least 3 more, which im in process of building now.
though it is confusing since Gader for instance, is on the list of the cities but cannot have barracks level above "citadel" and thats why i thought it is the highest level there is.

[Moros]

You don't need to update the buildings for the Qarthadashtim reforms, if I'm not mistaken.

[Sarkiss]

You don't need to update the buildings for the Qarthadashtim reforms, if I'm not mistaken.

thats what FAQ says.
why there are so few FMs with Barcid/anty-Barcid traits? or is it only for Hanno and Hamilcar (the only ones i can remember having it), which is spelled as Hamalcar for some reason?

[Bonny]

You don't need to update the buildings for the Qarthadashtim reforms, if I'm not mistaken.

don't get confusesd with the roman reforms, they work differently. The Quarthadastim Have the reginal level 5 barracks as a condition to reach the reform (you need to have 5 of them in certain places).

[pezhetairoi]

What do the Carthaginian reforms do, exactly? What units or buildings do they make available?

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

What do the Carthaginian reforms do, exactly? What units or buildings do they make available?

The add the 'late' units from the Carthaginian roster, mailed units

[Pharnakes]

What is the historical logic, if I can put it like that, of the Carthie reforms?