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    Interesting article - I wonder how true it is?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071110/...hile_summit_dc
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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    Awww you beat me to it, yeah he put a nice rubber ball in Chavez craving little mouth. King of Spain, we had our differences but way to go

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    Is that KOAS (King of Ancient Spain) telling a communist to shut up? I wonder what chief thinks?... I say pick a number between 98 and a hundred.
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    Unelected, hereditary institutions should learn to shut up and leave democratic, brilliant leaders to help people and get on with business.

    Bloody cheek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Unelected, hereditary institutions should learn to shut up and leave democratic, brilliant leaders to help people and get on with business.

    Bloody cheek.
    Brilliant leader getting trouble with us over a few crappy islands. He kept calling former pm of spain Aznar a facist, guy can't stand not being the cream of the show, and became a bit confused when the audience wasn't hangig on to every single word he said, even 'el diablo' didn't do it this time por favor wtf?? Of course this weren't leftist usa students but leaders.... tough crowd

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Unelected, hereditary institutions should learn to shut up and leave democratic, brilliant leaders to help people and get on with business.

    Bloody cheek.
    Right.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Unelected, hereditary institutions should learn to shut up and leave democratic, brilliant leaders to help people and get on with business.

    Bloody cheek.
    Do you know anything about recent Spanish history, such as the fact that the King restored democracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
    Do you know anything about recent Spanish history, such as the fact that the King restored democracy?
    IIRC he believes history to be irrelevant and human nature unexistant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache
    IIRC he believes history to be irrelevant and human nature unexistant.
    That's what I would do if I was a socialist... declare the history where human life was irrelevant naturally unexistant

    This make you happy JAG?

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    LOL ! Freakin political soap opera.... translated to gaming terms:

    Hey Ch@v3z u h@x0r !!! STFU or 1 WTFpwnj000 !!!!
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    The Yahoo article is somewhat obscure. So is the BBC one but gives a few more details.

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    The outburst came after Mr Chavez called former Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar a "fascist".

    Mr Chavez then interrupted Spanish PM Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero's calls for him to be more diplomatic, prompting the king's outburst.

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    Mr Chavez called Mr Aznar, a close ally of US President George W Bush, a fascist, adding "fascists are not human. A snake is more human."

    Mr Zapatero said: "[Former Prime Minister] Aznar was democratically elected by the Spanish people and was a legitimate representative of the Spanish people."

    Mr Chavez repeatedly tried to interrupt, despite his microphone being turned off. The king leaned forward and said: "Why don't you shut up?"
    According to reports, the king used a familiar term normally used only for close acquaintances - or children.
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    Zapatero is a Socialist and he was defending Aznar. I'm sure his words were a diplomatic "Shut-up". Chavez is going to get himself and his neighbors into a bit of a scrap.
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    BTW living in Western Europe it's hard to for most to concieve or imagine a real capitalism, because we've not seen it for a very long time. All of Western Europe is most defintely socialist.

    The whole system here is socialist. It's a great system too, only the salaries definetly suck big time. I'm talking upper class & upper middle class salaries, not the salaries of the comman man, (which are more regulated by the government).

    To be a manager or executive in a corp here, not only do you pay very heavy taxes, you also don't get paid anything in comparison to the exact same job in the USA. I won't even go into what social support you pay as an entrepreneur.
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    You people no nothing of the spainish language. Shut up has different connotations in spainsh than English. Its not that much of an insult
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    Just wondering why these essays are so dangerous

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    I have the feeling that if Chavez was to join the org he would be a very interesting "Backroomer" but would also accumulate quite some warning points

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Unelected, hereditary institutions should learn to shut up and leave democratic, brilliant leaders to help people and get on with business.

    Bloody cheek.
    Despite that he was not elected, the spanish king is probably the most successful promoter of democracy among living political leaders.

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    Bah, a bumbling Bourbon versus a ranting revolutionary. I don't care much for either. '¿por qué no te callas?' are the exact words of Juan Carlos (John Charles?). That is inappropriate languange in diplomacy. Here is a video of the incident. (Spanish) Later on, Noriega of Nicaragua fumed about Spain, and the Spanish king walked out.

    Iberian temperament? Bunch of schoolchildren I would say. Zapatero kept his cool though. I quite like him.
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    The King of Spain is a legend. Absolute classic.

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    I like how the good king handled it, rather than dealing with Chavez as a disrespectful and incendiary politico, he treated him like a disrespectful and incendiary teenager. Shut Up!
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    go king! *applauds*

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    Monarchy 1, Democracy 0.

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    hahahhahah
    'por qué no te callas?'....'why don´t you shut up?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    Bah, a bumbling Bourbon versus a ranting revolutionary. I don't care much for either. '¿por qué no te callas?' are the exact words of Juan Carlos (John Charles?). That is inappropriate languange in diplomacy. Here is a video of the incident. (Spanish) Later on, Noriega of Nicaragua fumed about Spain, and the Spanish king walked out.

    Iberian temperament? Bunch of schoolchildren I would say. Zapatero kept his cool though. I quite like him.
    After seeing the video I cannot quite tell when the king says anything resembling a "shut up", maybe that video isn't complete. Also I couldn't hear a single word of what Chavez said, except something like "racista" (racist). It will be good to know what Chavez was saying before I laugh of him....Well I'll do it anyway .

    EDIT: Ok I've heard it now, in another video, he doesn't say "shut up" plainly, he says "why don't you shut up" like Redleg's article said. I think it's irrelevant, I've heard many of these and even worse, also Chavez doesn't give a crap about that and just keeps speaking.
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    Both Spain and South America could benefit from a resurgence of fascism to combat this guy. He'll soon undermine democracy throughout SA.

    If this becomes a big media humiliation, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to kill the good king.

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    no more comments from Jag?

    not much of a debate since it looks like everyone supports the king, including me.

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    I almost posted a reply.
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    a resurgence of fascism
    Surely there are still some SS survivors in Brasil.

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    Chavez basically accuses the King of supporting a coup against him in Venezuela. Heck, if someone rear-ended his car, he'd be jumping around about 'Fascist!' and 'He's trying to overthrow me!!!!'
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    Quote Originally Posted by PanzerJaeger
    Both Spain and South America could benefit from a resurgence of fascism to combat this guy. He'll soon undermine democracy throughout SA.

    If this becomes a big media humiliation, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to kill the good king.
    Since Spain..and my own country suffered under Fascist dictatorship´s I believe the opinion of the general population of both countries would be 'thanks but no thanks'...

    actually I´m just being polite...the actual response would surely include a series of colorful expletives and threats of physical violence....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
    Chavez basically accuses the King of supporting a coup against him in Venezuela. Heck, if someone rear-ended his car, he'd be jumping around about 'Fascist!' and 'He's trying to overthrow me!!!!'
    Hopefully Chavez doesn't believe his own press, because if he does sooner or later he will self destruct. Which could be very dangerous for the people of his nation.
    O well, seems like 'some' people decide to ruin a perfectly valid threat. Nice going guys... doc bean

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