MP hotseat passwords

**Privateerkev** · 11-11-2007, 15:38

Upon further thought, and coffee, I have come up with some more points.

I see three basic types of Kingdom Hotseat games.

1.) Game is "password secret" which means that everyone has their own password and no one gives it out. The GM is severly limited in what they can enforce. Both Kingdoms hotseats in here started as "type 1" games and have not done well. The Teutonic game was killed simply because someone was going to quit and pass their faction to a replacement player but they ended up forgetting what their password was. The game had to be restarted. And the Crusade game was held up for more than 3 weeks because a player dropped out of contact and refused to speak to anyone from the game. They finally communicated and passed on their password to a replacement but a second player has quit due to not wanting to play with that replacement. That second player has still not given over their password. So the Crusade game might be killed as well.

2.) GM demands every password before starting the game. This is to fasciculate enforcement and to ensure that the game keeps running. In my experience, the GM does more than just "start" the game which is why I use the term GM and not GS (game starter). The GM maintains the game thread, finds the players, sets the house rules, and keeps the game running. There are very few mechanisms for enforcement. Being keeper of the passwords is one of the few tools the GM has. Passwords can also be deposited with a third party as backup. This is my preferred type of game.

3.) Every player hands their passwords to an impartial third party such as our forum moderator but not to the GM. This would mean that the GM and mod would have to communicate over every executive decision regarding other players. Plus the mod could overrule the GM by simply passing the GM's password out if the GM tries to kill his own game. If a GM wished to replace a player or kill his game, he would need the mod's cooperation and permission.

So, if people want to play in a type 1 or type 3 game, then they should start one and I wish them luck. But please do not take away my ability to run a type 2.

**econ21** · 11-11-2007, 16:09

People are of course free to start up whatever games they wish - I'm just offering my services if they are useful. Notifying the players when all passwords have been received is important and I would do that for games I was the password repository for.

**_Tristan_** · 11-11-2007, 18:05

I maintain that I prefer a 3rd party to be the recipient of PW but I don't really care as EF can ascertain having obtained my PWs or the two precedent Hotseats...

Anybody can swear an oath never to use something, until the moment he uses it... So someone having no interest in the process is in my opinion the best solution...

**Ramses II CP** · 11-11-2007, 19:40

Personally I posted my password openly in the thread. It's not a big deal, IMHO. If people are going to cheat then there are about a hundred exploits you could search up on these forums that would give you more advantage than just a chance to look at my save.

**gibsonsg91921** · 11-12-2007, 00:12

and its not like u wouldnt notice if someone cheated and all of ur guys and buildings were dead

**_Tristan_** · 11-12-2007, 10:40

No, but some lurking armies, spies and assassins could be revealed... and that would be a shame...

**gibsonsg91921** · 11-13-2007, 15:56

u wouldnt get a end of turn report either, if the guy before changed stuff and then uploaded. if they're just looking at the saves, thats more elusive. maybe we could use the honor system and treat everyone else like adults??