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[DoomKaiser]

Really GREAT idea but
1)the theocratic is promblematic: Egypt din't have thocracy until Cleopatra. All the other ptolemies spoke greek and had greek customs and Cleopatra adopted egyptian () customs. Of cource the greek 'pharaohs' had 'let' the egyptians to worship them but they din't care. So maybe monarchy fits better to egypt (until cleopatra).

2)The spread of these political forms maybe promblematic:
If the athenians(or koinon hellenon) take an african, iberian colony or something the locals will be crazy to adopt democracy! Also in koinon hellenon there were Democracy(athens), Commercial Oligarchy(corinth,corfu,thebes-i think) , Monarchy(sparta). So if Koinon hellenon is one it will be great promblem. (the one region will affect the other). So ways must be found to prevent the spreading sometimes.

I really find this idea great- i would never think of something like that if eb2modders solve this 2 promblems (the second mainly) then no way they don't put it in eb2

[I Am Herenow]

Well, actually, maybe having the KH being ripped apart by different "religions" and threatening to explode at any moment (for the player, at any rate) would be a good thing? It would be a way to model disunity, stop the KH from steamrolling right from the start and force the player to "expand inwards" and stop his faction from falling apart (RWE-style, BI players)?

[antisocialmunky]

But wouldn't it be weird to look at the settlement scroll and see 70% republican 29% Democrat 1% Naked and Fanatical? Though, I agree that it would be REALLY cool to have individuals be able to affect the government type in cities especially Rome.

[DoomKaiser]

Well, actually, maybe having the KH being ripped apart by different "religions" and threatening to explode at any moment (for the player, at any rate) would be a good thing? It would be a way to model disunity, stop the KH from steamrolling right from the start and force the player to "expand inwards" and stop his faction from falling apart (RWE-style, BI players)?

good idea; However it won't be easy to balance.

1)Athens generally must have a steady +democracy bonus. So that even if you (a monarchist) want , wont be easy for you to change their political views. In mtw with 2 priests is very easy to change in a region the faith they have. This is not good for the balance. Also, if in lets say cordoba(mtw2 talking) you had 1 priest and temple after 10-20 no muslims exist there! Now it would be crazy to conquer athens and make them monarchist so fast.

2)From the opposite side athens must never have 100% democracy. I mean always there were oligarchists,...
Generally the change must be more slow..

3)MOST IMPORTANT: in a city where meny republicans live must be more friendly to democrats than to monarchists for example. These 'religions'(political views) must not be completely independant but must have relations:
republic close to democracy(++)
monarchy to olligarchy(+)
republic to oligarchy(+)
So if rome conquers athens then athens must adopt more easily republic than monarchy.

[antisocialmunky]

Here's a thought. Could we link unit recruitment to this like in the Brittania campaign? It'd bring up some interesting possibilities such as RPing the KH to turn all of Greece into a Spartan military camp.

[I Am Herenow]

1)Athens generally must have a steady +democracy bonus. So that even if you (a monarchist) want , wont be easy for you to change their political views. In mtw with 2 priests is very easy to change in a region the faith they have. This is not good for the balance. Also, if in lets say cordoba(mtw2 talking) you had 1 priest and temple after 10-20 no muslims exist there! Now it would be crazy to conquer athens and make them monarchist so fast.

Why not just either remove priests (or sim.) or make their conversion power much weaker than that of a "temple"?

2)From the opposite side athens must never have 100% democracy. I mean always there were oligarchists,...

3)MOST IMPORTANT: in a city where meny republicans live must be more friendly to democrats than to monarchists for example. These 'religions'(political views) must not be completely independant but must have relations:
republic close to democracy(++)
monarchy to olligarchy(+)
republic to oligarchy(+)
So if rome conquers athens then athens must adopt more easily republic than monarchy.

That seems quite easy to solve (assuming the hardcode allows it): why not have "temples" to Democracy offer 25% Democracy, 10% Republic and 5% Oligarchy conversion, for example?

[DoomKaiser]

Why not just either remove priests (or sim.) or make their conversion power much weaker than that of a "temple"? That seems quite easy to solve (assuming the hardcode allows it): why not have "temples" to Democracy offer 25% Democracy, 10% Republic and 5% Oligarchy conversion, for example?

If you have 25% democracy and all the other lets say 20% in the end there will be 100% democracy i think.