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    The Black Senior Member Papewaio's Avatar
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    Default Re: Darwinism, Survival of the fittest & natural selection.

    It is no more wrong to espouse Darwinistic Evolution then to espouse Newtonian Gravity.
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    Default Re: Darwinism, Survival of the fittest & natural selection.

    (i´m gonna choose my words very carefully here because I know how these topics tend to get derailed here)

    The evolution theory is the best model we have to describe what goes on in the natural world...in reality.
    So if your morals conflict with a detailed explanation of reality.....I propose that there is something wrong with your morals.

    what next? 'is it moral do say the sky appears blue?....tune in next Tuesday for for the big debate'
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    Default Re: Darwinism, Survival of the fittest & natural selection.

    Aww, now I voted before reading the replies.

    When I read Darwinism and morals I thought about letting the weak die on the streets or something like that, so yeah, kinda clashed with my morals.


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    Default Re: Darwinism, Survival of the fittest & natural selection.

    Firstly, you say what you think & believe, and that is good for you.

    Secondly, yes, that is the point. For some people, Darwinism is ethically wrong because to them it implies is that the reality of life is to care only for oneself. Let others deal with their issues, however life theatening and bad their circumstances may be. If they're dying, or poor, or hungry it's not your ethical responsibility to help them.

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    Default Re: Darwinism, Survival of the fittest & natural selection.

    I believe in natural selection, but i don't think it should be allowed to happen without interference.

    We care for mentally challenged and disabled people even though natural selection would get rid of them, i support it outside of humanity as well, helping animals that thier parents abonded to die.

    So i guess that would mean my answer is yes, darwinism does clash with my morality (is it my morality im answering it clashes with or anyones ?)

    answer is yes either way...
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    Default Re: Darwinism, Survival of the fittest & natural selection.

    Changing the station on the radio only changes the frequency you are listening to. It does not change that you are listening to a radio.

    Our actions do not stop selection happening, it only applies a different pressure and hence a different outcome to whom do survive.
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    Default Re: Darwinism, Survival of the fittest & natural selection.

    This thread is going to explode when Navaros sees it.

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    Default Re: Darwinism, Survival of the fittest & natural selection.

    Sinan, I need clarification: Are you speaking of Darwinism the scientific model or Social Darwinism the social theory?

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