Ugliest unit

[NeoSpartan]

pandotatoi (sp)

[hoom]

I'd say the Carthaginian Sacred Band Cav.
Its really a skinning/texture resolution thing I think, the shield is too low res. (I think similar issue is the main problem with the KH Classical Hoplite) & the barding on the horse too clean/doesn't really look right somehow.

With a re-skin it'll be awesome

[sgsandor]

i apperciate all the units but i just have my own hang ups on a few. I dunno i think mine have more to do with fashion and what i would personally like to wear in that environment. But that being said i dont like capes on infantry i think it would be more of a parade thing but i am no historian (ex mak's reformed phalanx sp?) big pike check, sheild check, chain mail check, purple cape Fabulous!
sorry i dont wanna offend anyone like i said its just a thing

[Jaywalker-Jack]

I think a few of the basic units are very plain looking - Hellenic slingers or archers, and pantodapoi (except for ptolemaic pantodapoi which have a bit of detail to them). Also the Numidian units are a bit bland. Back in vanilla they would have fitted right in, I suppose in EB you start to take intricate detail for granted

[Tellos Athenaios]

I think a few of the basic units are very plain looking - Hellenic slingers or archers, and pantodapoi (except for ptolemaic pantodapoi which have a bit of detail to them). Also the Numidian units are a bit bland. Back in vanilla they would have fitted right in, I suppose in EB you start to take intricate detail for granted

Uhm... those are the units who are happy to have plain clothing because they can't afford to buy a new set after each battle. I mean: how are you going to get all stains out of your clothing aftewards *and* keep them reasonably the same as before the entire battle?

[sgsandor]

@ Thaatu
I know purple was very regal but i was just trying to make a joke
(back to jokes 101 with me)

[Thaatu]

@ Thaatu
I know purple was very regal but i was just trying to make a joke
(back to jokes 101 with me)

I actually appreciate the "fabulous" joke, although it's a little hard to get across via writing when you can't do the voice, but I had to counter with the "balls" joke.

[russia almighty]

Real question is how scary would Gaesatae be with full chain mail .

[akbolling]

It doesnt matter if the units are ugly. They're very historical and that's all that matters.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Ugliest? Probably the cow hide patterned shields of the pantodapoi, and the helmets of the Iberian milities, caetrati and scutarii (however, the ugliness of helmets of the latter is more than made up for their badass spears ).

[Puupertti Ruma]

I have to admit I detest the head of the Spartiatai. Their hair just looks really dirty and the beard is really weird too.

[paullus]

Re: Gaesatae scabbards on right hip

Answer: That's where they wore them. We have numerous depictions of Gaesatae-type soldiers with their scabbard on their right hip. I'm not sure why they did it, but they did. Some of them did use baldrics to suspend their swords, and those could even hang at the left hip, but most wore a belt with scabbard on the right hip. The Greeks and most Romans (officers excluded) wore their swords on the left hip, but the Celts most often wore theirs on the right. Perhaps they wanted to do the cool sword twirl in their hands after drawing it from the scabbard (the grip would be wrong at first).

[konny]

The Greeks and most Romans (officers excluded) wore their swords on the left hip

In this case you'll have to redo all unitcards for the Romans ;-)

Perhaps they wanted to do the cool sword twirl in their hands after drawing it from the scabbard (the grip would be wrong at first).

Reenactors draw the sword from the right hip with a reverted grip (thumb down), so you have it in the right way once you turn your hand up again.

[ombudsman]

Re: Gaesatae scabbards on right hip

Answer: That's where they wore them. We have numerous depictions of Gaesatae-type soldiers with their scabbard on their right hip. I'm not sure why they did it, but they did. Some of them did use baldrics to suspend their swords, and those could even hang at the left hip, but most wore a belt with scabbard on the right hip. The Greeks and most Romans (officers excluded) wore their swords on the left hip, but the Celts most often wore theirs on the right. Perhaps they wanted to do the cool sword twirl in their hands after drawing it from the scabbard (the grip would be wrong at first).

Interesting, very interesting indeed, i can see how people with a short sword would do that, but a long sword like the once the Gaesatae had, it seems hard to be able to draw it out. anyway, nice to see how the team takes notice of such small things as where the scabbard is placed. Maybe it´s as Konny stated, that it has something to do with the shield? since they do have pretty big shields, you would not want you scabbard to be in the way...though i have no idea, by no means expert on armor in ancient times...or any other era either.

[Midnj]

The Gaestae (sic) are ugly buggers. Fortunately they have other rather large, redeeming features for the ladies

[Maeran]

A large hexagonal shield?

I suppose it can work as a sunshade

[Romano-Dacis]

I really loved the Getic general actually. The helmet looks a little weird, but hey, no other general can say they are bedecked in gold

A unit I have a complaint with is the Komatai Epilektoi. The armor just looks a little bit like it's out of a low-budget movie. The metal pieces on the leather seeem too big to me. It's even worse considering the good job they did on studded leather with the Komatai Agrianai. In fact, I implore the team to replace the armor on the epilektoi with the armor used by the agrianai.

I also really loved the old Komatai, especially the good designs on the shields. I don't see why they would throw away such a well-done unit.

[fenix3279]

I've always been a little skeptical to the Helvetii phalanx. It's an awesome unit, don't get me wrong. It's just the torso that throws me off. It's supposed to be a celtic bronze cuirass. To me it looks like a fancy gold shirt out of a disco movie. The armor is too skintight. It needs to be a little "fatter" if you know what I mean. Add some more thickness and depth and it would look amazing. Just an idea. I am particulary fond of the celtic generals. They look so amazingly badass *drools*

[Belisarius12]

i dislike dislike,dislike dislike and Comate Comate Comate the rest is superb

[Belisarius12]

i dislike Komatai Thorakitai, Stratiotai Getikoi Stratiotai ,Pantodapoi

[Teleklos Archelaou]

The purpose of this thread is for people who have nothing to do with creating the (free) mod to single out the work of artists who have worked long and hard on their own proverbial dime and time to create the units for those same people to enjoy. This thread's mere existence is repugnant in my opinion and I'm actually embarassed that it has been allowed (and that I as one of the moderators have allowed it) to continue for as long as it has. I personally apologize to our unit artists for not closing it down sooner, but better late than never.