guns are still good but no way near as strong as they where in shogun/MI. I don't go near the handgunners I go straight for the arq's. Arbalestes are good but they don't cause the fear that guns do I normally go for 2 pasive arbalestes & 1 arq. Very few units will be able to make it to melee with my line with that kindof firepower. the ammo dosen't last long now for guns aswell. Stick 2 longbow men behind your spear units & it becomes a killing spree