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    Default Strange finances

    Hmmm I've been trying to figure this one out for a while, and it could be that I'm blind in some way.

    So, I started a Hayasdan campaign and everything was going pretty ok. I just united the homelandish area and had my economy up and running with about 1000 profit a turn. Then all of a sudden, i started making only 6 or 7 gold a turn. I checked my finance sheet and it said my army upkeep was 3600! This is way more than what it should be, as I disbanded my army after conquering and it should only be about 600 or so. I checked for any hidden armys that i missed or if I had some shitty trait but I cant seem to find anything.

    Any suggestions?

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    Default Re: Strange finances

    Hayasdan generals bodyguards are expensive because they're really really tough, could be that.

    Besides, no money will be the least of your worries once the Seleukids lay siege to your capital with a full stack of mercenaries.

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    Default Re: Strange finances

    You don't have to pay upkeep for the FMs' bodyguard (save for a few exceptions).

    Did you place Level IV Governements in your conquests? Because that is different: you'll have to pay for the upkeep of the puppet leaders' bodyguards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by konny
    Did you place Level IV Governements in your conquests? Because that is different: you'll have to pay for the upkeep of the puppet leaders' bodyguards.
    That was my thought too, but Siruso wrote "army upkeep", not "wages". AFAIK, them CRs Bodyguards are under the wages in the budget.

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    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    The wages are extra. You have to pay wages for your FM bodyguards too. I think, but don't know for sure, that diplomats and spies are paid by wages as well. If the bodyguard has an additional upkeep it is listed under "army upkeep".

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    In the unit infoscreen, there's a row with "upkeep". Well, both FMs & CRs have 0 upkeep for their Bodyguards, yet there's some money to pay. I'm not 100% sure, but I think all that money you pay for those bodyguard units are under wages.

    ... and yes: diplomats, spies & assasins are listed under "wages".

    T.
    Towards the end of the book, the Moties quote an old story from Herodotus:

    "Once there was a thief who was to be executed. As he was taken away he made a bargain with the king: In one year he would teach the king's favorite horse to sing hymns."
    "The other prisoners watched the thief singing to the horse and laughed. 'You will not succeed,' they told him. 'No one can.' To which the thief replied, 'I have a year, and who knows what will happen in that time. The king might die. The horse might die. I might die. And perhaps the horse will learn to sing.'"

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    Default Re: Strange finances

    As far as I know, bodyguards don't get paid. The amount of bodyguard has no effect on FM's wages. From what I know, all the FMs and other generals get a fixed payment, which doesn't change on any circumstance, except death.

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    Yeah I did put up lvl 4 govt, I didnt even think about that angle. I'll go switch them out and see if that does anything. Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siruso
    Yeah I did put up lvl 4 govt, I didnt even think about that angle. I'll go switch them out and see if that does anything. Thanks guys.
    kill the bloody client ruler. charging pikes head on in wage formation (will place him on the tip of it) should do the trick

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    something tells me sarkiss isnt new to killing off people...im gonna sleep with one eye open now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Long lost Caesar
    something tells me sarkiss isnt new to killing off people...im gonna sleep with one eye open now
    Something tells me Long Lost Caesar isn't new to sleeping with one eye open

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