Scripting problems

[Red Spot]

just curious as well - won't your monitor trigger if say julii and senate are still allied but julii general is standing next to Rome when you open siege scroll somewhere else for different factions..? (I know mine overflows a bit as well but that was why I was trying to have FactionBesieging in and restrict it to firing if besieger was local player.

yeah it does, brings a bit of "player-caution" into play, but it saves on some extra checks that only give a minor additional degree of certainty, like testing if the Julii are at war with the Senate and the Senate is actually besieged and the Julii besieging ... but that still doesnt garantee that the Julii are actually sieging settlement_x

why I also asked about the siege button you are using, thought when I think about it I'd rather have some additional overflow in favour of knowing whats there to be killed ... :D


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[Makanyane]

why I also asked about the siege button you are using, thought when I think about it I'd rather have some additional overflow in favour of knowing whats there to be killed ...

do you mean in terms of using assault button to view contents of enemy army without actually attacking? (it does add them if you do that but you also get to view them as soon as it displays enemy army) Surely creating units when you open siege scroll has same effect but earlier
and also occurs if you just re-open it to check if siege engines are built?

meh, I might switch over to adding default army on start of siege and then top up / spawn if you maintain siege over turn, but I think it needs the terminate monitors in either way (?)

[Red Spot]

do you mean in terms of using assault button to view contents of enemy army without actually attacking? (it does add them if you do that but you also get to view them as soon as it displays enemy army) Surely creating units when you open siege scroll has same effect but earlier
and also occurs if you just re-open it to check if siege engines are built?

meh, I might switch over to adding default army on start of siege and then top up / spawn if you maintain siege over turn, but I think it needs the terminate monitors in either way (?)

actually I was, incorrectly, assuming that the siege_button would trigger the battle, but it ofcourse only triggers the deploment scroll(or what it is called)

I'm not that bothered with extra spawn in such way that a settlement gets filled up, I already spawn 16units based on "global settlement level" wich pretty much fills up the settlement so an additional "viewing" might spawn 3 additional units but just as well none, anyway thats not really bothering me ...
(I've taking lots of effort to try and get the AI up to a level where they can actually beat me on the campaign-map as well as battle-map without cheating all over the place, currently I get my behind kicked by the AI without cheating(well, AI eventually gets 2XP when training units, but only late in game) the only think I cant "balance out" is the fact that the AI doesnt respond to me paying a visit with ~3 to 5 stacks, 3 more units wont make much of a diff. in the big picture ... note that I play on VH/H in BI 1.6)


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[Bardo]

looked at LotR's script (I'm going to have to apologise to their script writer for cribbing)

I'm the lotr-tw scripter, and no apologise needed. Please, crib my scripts as much as you want, use freely all what you find useful, and share it here all what you think could be useful to others.
Also, feel free to pm me if you want that I explain something about some script, or if you have any suggestion.

As Athilus said: the Underscores in internal names aren't the problem, it's spaces in external names. We chose the middle dot to replace all the spaces from external names.
Note: that I know, only the condition "SettlementName" uses the external name instead of the internal.

Red Spot:also GarrisonSettlementRatio < 0.8, does that work??
Makanyane: I was assuming it was working off the garrison level you see in the happiness rating in settlement view, and so related to population/army ratio

I can confirm it works and I'm almost sure that Makanyane is right about the meaning.

But, Makanyane, there where you have placed it in your lastest example it can't work because the event buttonpressed can't export the settlement record.

monitor_event ButtonPressed ButtonPressed siege_assault_button
and GarrisonSettlementRatio < 0.8

monitor_event ScrollOpened seige_scroll
and ScrollOpened seige_scroll

I worked a lot in the development of my garrison script and I never though of using these kind of triggers .Thank you for point it out.
I'll see if I can improve my garrison script with this info.

[Dol Guldur]

FATW uses indestructible buildings (marvels and regional buildings) to associate the script to (in addtion to one-word settlement names); not event scripting of course (we have none) but the traits and ancs coding...this was we do not need to worry about having settlements with more than one word in the name. Just a tip, though if you have a specific script on virtually every city then that system may not be robust enough.

[Red Spot]

you might want to go with Mak's method if you do end up using one, I'm tempting to change my script as well, it causes of lot of "sally out" scenarios ... a bit more than I actually like ...


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[Makanyane]

Thanks Bardo

I did in the end use some events with the ScrollOpened seige_scroll event as well (though with terminate_monitor), and some done the way it works in LotR so you get garrison when siege lasts over turn, just to vary things for some cities to make result not as predictable for end user.

If anyone's trying to use anything similar for M2TW its worth noting that, thankfully that does have an I_SettlementBesieged type condition (you'll need to check syntax) which removes the need for all the army placement checks. The little darlings also corrected the spelling of seige_scroll to siege_scroll, which was nice of them, but got me in trouble with friend who I gave text of RTW version to as an example, he figured out why it wasn't working after about 3 hours testing.