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    Default Re: Q about Carthage reforms and some other units

    Quote Originally Posted by CaesarAugustus
    As a Roman player embroiled in the 5th Punic War right now, I can tell you that Carthage's elite infantry units are not very fun to fight against.



    Sorry I really dont get what you are trying to ask here. Yes, the units you get after the reform wear Roman-style chainmail, if that's what you meant.

    sorry again for my poor english (you see,EB is such a great worldwide MOD that even attracts people form a far far away country where we almost never speak english )


    i just wanna ask in the Recruit Viewer, how can i distinguish my soldiers ,which of them are available before reform and which are only appear after reform?


    once again,really sorry for my poor english expression and thanks for your patience and answers!

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    Default Re: Q about Carthage reforms and some other units

    As far as I can tell, the Recruitment Viewer doesn't give any indication which units are trainable before/after reform
    maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...

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    Default Re: Q about Carthage reforms and some other units

    Quote Originally Posted by hoom
    As far as I can tell, the Recruitment Viewer doesn't give any indication which units are trainable before/after reform

    i saw romani units with reform indications(C/P/M/I) on its unit-card in RV,and some guals' units also has such indications,

    but it seems that other factions' unit-card dont have any reform indications.

    after 2 days waiting,i guess nobody here exactly know all the reform's real effect(it seems strange that you guys can play the faction without knowing what will happen to your faction later).anyway, EB is such a great MOD that i will try to find out the all reform's effect one by one just by playing that faction...

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    Default Re: Q about Carthage reforms and some other units

    OK, nearly six months since I have played eb (before the reforms existed, infact), but logicaly before the reforms you will be able to recruit:

    Poeni citizen millitia (levy hoplites)
    Liby-Phonecian infantry (hoplites wearing traditonal gear, linothorax and greaves))
    Poeni citizen cavalry (Medium cavalry wearing greaves and linothorax, armed with a xyston)
    Sacred Band infantry (heavy hoplites wearing muscled cuirass)
    Sacred band cavalry (Heavy cavalry wearing full heavy cav panalopy, horse has a linnen sheet covering chest)


    After the reforms:
    Liby-Phonecian heavy infantry (heavy hoplites wearing roman style chain mail plus greaves)
    Elite Afriacn infanrty (heavy shock infantry, equipped wth a pelta like shield and a ap sword. Wearing roman chaimail plus greaves)
    Elite African pikemen (amoured as above, but uses the iliyrian buckler and a pike, obviously )
    Iberian assualt infantry (like the samnite sowrds men, wearing greaves and a muscled cuirass, has an aspis and a ap falacta)

    Sorry that I can't remember the Poeni names for the units.

    Also, sory tha I don't know where the Carthiginian lonchonophoroi (sp?) fit in. I can't even remember what they are called.

    Like I said, I have never played 1.0, and haven't played eb at all for 6 months.


    Some regional awsomeness that you can't go without as the Karthidastim:

    Geasatae: (I'm sure you know who these boys are , regional mic 5)
    Balearic slingers: (Arguably the best slingers in the game, factional mic 3(IIRC) in the Balearaes islands)
    Balearic light infantry: (waste of time in 0.8, maybe better in 1.0, if so pick em up from factional 4, again in the Baleares)
    Iberian Catatanks: (Iberian Catatanks, 'nough said ,Factional mic 5 in southern Iberia, check recruitment viewer for details)
    Neitos: (Heavy Galic swordsmen, Gaul, regional mic 4 or 5 IIRC 4)


    There are lots more of course, but those are the some of the ones that can make or break your campaign.

    Just experiment, save your game, then "cheat" by pressing ', then type in: "add_money, egypt, 40000" (minus the speachmarks)

    Then build up your cities to see what is avalible where. Cheat to insta build is: "process_cq Kart-Hadast" (or whatever city you want. again take out the speachmarks)

    Hope this helps you a bit.
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    Default Re: Q about Carthage reforms and some other units

    They also get libyan normal infantry before and libyan heavies after it.
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    Default Re: Q about Carthage reforms and some other units

    Whoops, forgot about them.
    Like I said six months...

    *sighs and contomplates methods of suicide*
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    Default Re: Q about Carthage reforms and some other units

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharnakes
    OK, nearly six months since I have played eb (before the reforms existed, infact), but logicaly before the reforms you will be able to recruit:

    .......:

    thanks you soooooo much!!

    i love the cheat code which really solved my problem!

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